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WEEDON John and Elizabeth, Thames Ditton
« on: Thursday 17 February 11 18:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I'm trying to identify my 4 x great-grandparents John and Elizabeth WEEDON (or WEEDEN).
They would have been married in the mid to late 1780's.
I have found a single possible marriage, John Weedon marrying Elizabeth HUSE/HEWES/HUGHES at Thames Ditton on 29th October 1786.

Unfortunately there are two John Weedons, who are cousins,  possible candidates for bridegroom:
1.   John son of John and Elizabeth born 20th May 1764
2.   John  son of Daniel and Zilla born 13th July 1766.
(The other possibility is that neither of them is the right one but I will cross that bridge if I come to it!)

I rather imagine that in the 1780's such information as bridegroom's age and the name of his parents was not included on marriage records  :(  Is this correct?  If so,  is there another way of breaking down this brick wall?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Bev
Weedon - Hertfordshire and W. Australia
Herbertson, Congalton, Paterson - Scotland
Reed, Elmer - Hunts.
Branson - Bucks. and Birmingham
Warren, Ball, Jones - Birmingham
Fuller, Bourne, Sheepwash - Kent
Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia

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Re: WEEDON John and Elizabeth, Thames Ditton
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 February 11 19:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi

 
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rather imagine that in the 1780's such information as bridegroom's age and the name of his parents was not included on marriage records    Is this correct?

'Fraid so - minimal detail on certs for that period

Age = Full or Minor
Witnesses names
No fathers names before 1837 - mothers names are never shown
Spinster/Bachelor/Widow/Widower at time of marriage
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Re: WEEDON John and Elizabeth, Thames Ditton
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 February 11 08:07 GMT (UK) »
Bev, you could look for wills of John & Daniel (the fathers) to see if they mention sons, daughters in law or grandchildren or even places.
You can do this at TNA site (National Archives)  also look for any other documentation, land deeds, settlement orders etc at the same site.  Also look at the naming paterns of their respective children ( John & Daniels) although not conclusive it might lead you in the right direction,

Jane
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Re: WEEDON John and Elizabeth, Thames Ditton
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 February 11 12:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for your helpful advice, I'll follow it up!
Weedon - Hertfordshire and W. Australia
Herbertson, Congalton, Paterson - Scotland
Reed, Elmer - Hunts.
Branson - Bucks. and Birmingham
Warren, Ball, Jones - Birmingham
Fuller, Bourne, Sheepwash - Kent
Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia


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Re: WEEDON John and Elizabeth, Thames Ditton
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 February 11 14:44 GMT (UK) »
Bev, I'm digging a bit deeper with your query.  I found that both your John Weedon's were bap. one in Watford, Herts & the other in St. Mary Le Bow.  Do you have any evidence that either was connected to Thames Ditton.  I only ask as IGI gives a few John Weedon's from Surrey which I would have thought more likely to have married in Thames Ditton.
Only 1 burial in Thames Ditton (up to 1837) for Weedon/Weeden & that's a John Weeden 14/1/1821 age 54. 
I'm still digging.  Oh, it seems that Daniel etc were non conformists (new beta search on familysearch) all their children were baptised in NC church.
Jane
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Re: WEEDON John and Elizabeth, Thames Ditton
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 February 11 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your interest, Jane.
The link with Surrey is rather tenuous, Daniel and John sr.'s mother was from Surrey.
The family was originally non-conformist but some of them fell by the wayside. 
My line of the family is all from the Watford/Herts. area in later generations though Dan appears to have lived in Middlesex/London.
The John (jr.) who I am trying to trace definitely lived in Hertfordshire so it looks as though the Watford John is the correct one.
I have now found a John Weeden marrying  Elizabeth Hitchcock in St. Albans which looks more promising than the Surrey connection.  ::)  They weren't very imaginative with their names (3 generations of men marrying Elizabeths)!
I'm still pursuing every possibility and thank you very much for your efforts.

Bev
Weedon - Hertfordshire and W. Australia
Herbertson, Congalton, Paterson - Scotland
Reed, Elmer - Hunts.
Branson - Bucks. and Birmingham
Warren, Ball, Jones - Birmingham
Fuller, Bourne, Sheepwash - Kent
Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia

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Re: WEEDON John and Elizabeth, Thames Ditton
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 February 11 07:10 GMT (UK) »
It's really a sticky problem Bev & one I've had myself!  I had a look at TNA for wills but nothing jumped out as they say.
I did notice on Beta that there was a John & Elizabeth Weedon having children in Icklesham, Middlesex at about the right time.
I think you're probably right to concentrate your efforts in Herts,

Jane
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Re: WEEDON John and Elizabeth, Thames Ditton
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 February 11 08:01 GMT (UK) »
Just to make matters worse, the Ickenham Weedons are totally separate!
I suppose it's possible that one of my Johns married Elizabeth from St. Albans and the other married Elizabeth from Thames Ditton...... ??? but the Hertfordshire connection is very strong in the line I'm looking for so I agree that Watford is the way to go, especially if there are Johns in Surrey!
Thanks a lot!

Bev
Weedon - Hertfordshire and W. Australia
Herbertson, Congalton, Paterson - Scotland
Reed, Elmer - Hunts.
Branson - Bucks. and Birmingham
Warren, Ball, Jones - Birmingham
Fuller, Bourne, Sheepwash - Kent
Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia

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Re: WEEDON John and Elizabeth, Thames Ditton
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 February 11 08:35 GMT (UK) »
This is the John Weedon Surrey baptism that I found on IGI.  S/o Thomas & Mary, 22/2/1767, Headley, Sry,

Jane
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