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William Eden born c1814 mystery man of Hook Norton!
« on: Saturday 19 February 11 22:28 GMT (UK) »
I am hitting a brick wall with my maternal x3 great grandfather William Eden.

This is what I know:

He married Mary Ann Phipps in Hook Norton 20 Apr 1834.

The following children were baptised to them in Hook Norton:
Arminda 27-3-1836
Rose Phipps 5-12-1841
Joseph 11-5-1845
Mary 11-5-1845
Hannah 17-5-1849 - my x2 great grandmother
Amelia(Mele) 4-4-1847
William 6-7-1851


I have William on the 1851 census

Park Farm - Hook Norton
William Eden head age 37 ag lab born Great Barford Oxon
Mary Ann Eden wife age 37 born Hook Norton
Joseph  Eden son age 6  born Hook Norton
Amealia dau age 4              "
Hannah dau age 2              "

In the 1841 census Mary Ann Eden is living with Arminda (Minda) who is 5 and Hannah Phipps age 65 (her mother), no sign of William her husband.

In 1861 - 1881 census again there is no sign of William, Mary is alone but not a widow, described as labourers wife.


Previous posts suggest there is no baptism for him in Great Barford (Barford St Michael)
They married before 1837 so I can get no further information from a marriage certificate.
Where was he in 1841 - they obviously were together in the 1840s as several children were born, then where did he go? If he was in prison how could I find out, or would the census indicate that?
Wheeler/Roberts/Gough/Keasey of Oxfordshire/Warwickshire. Clark/Huxtable/Andrew/Bale/Watts Devon
Gibbins/Bowler Sheffield, Eden/Phipps of Hook Norton Oxfordshire
Nightingale/Tandy Worcestershire
Symes Devon

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Re: William Eden born c1814 mystery man of Hook Norton!
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 March 11 08:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There is a William Eden staying in Oxford in 1841 with a Sarah Eden age 70 and James Eden age 30.
HO107 891 18/18 28. This William was born 1811 though no idea where.

There is a William Eden born 1914 in prison, his trial was in Bucks, though no idea how you know this was the correct William.

I will check the Parish records in the library tomorrow to see if I can find his baptism and any other details

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Re: William Eden born c1814 mystery man of Hook Norton!
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 12 March 11 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Checked the Parish Records for Barford St Michael from 1823 backwards to 1794 and could not find any Eden baptisms at all.

As he married in Hook Norton I checked the baptism records and found 2 William Edens -
Baptised 10/3/1800 son of Richards and Lydia (Private baptism)
Baptised 24/8/1813 son of Joseph and Mary, Labourer. (spelt Edden)

The witnesses at their marriage were Thomas Eden and Amandia Eden, presumably siblings. Did try looking for their baptisms but none sprang out immediately.

Found the baptisedrecords for 4 x  Mary Ann Phipps.

Lottee
Mason - Yorkshire
Manger -Tynemouth/Hull
Turner - Cottingham
Franklin - Cottingham
Lawrence - London
Bailey - Northumberland
Butler - Hampshire/Channel Isles
Harms - Hampshire/London/India/Northumberland
Timson - Ware, Hertfordshire
Wild & Nield - Lancashire
Row(e) - Buckinghamshire
Manders - Buckinghamshire
Wilkins - Herts
Lamberts - Herts
Crowe -Northern Ireland

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Re: William Eden born c1814 mystery man of Hook Norton!
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 12 March 11 21:28 GMT (UK) »
Hello
Thanks for your posts, the census info looks interesting, I have a feeling he may have been in prison as he keeps disappearing!
The 2 baptisms - the 1800 one I think is too early, the 1814 one looks hopeful but there is another William Edden on census returns married to an Elizabeth, d.o.b varies between 1814-1816 (may be rounding) but born in Hook Norton, and in 1851 appears in the census at the same time as 'my' William so I think that the baptism belongs to him.

There are other strands on this subject started by 'Jaywit' at 'Thomas Eden married to Arminda' all very helpful - I need to get digging!
Wheeler/Roberts/Gough/Keasey of Oxfordshire/Warwickshire. Clark/Huxtable/Andrew/Bale/Watts Devon
Gibbins/Bowler Sheffield, Eden/Phipps of Hook Norton Oxfordshire
Nightingale/Tandy Worcestershire
Symes Devon


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Re: William Eden born c1814 mystery man of Hook Norton!
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 March 11 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi Again rfh

Have you tried Oxford FHS search service as its reasonably priced & you get your moneys worth

Good hunting

All the very best

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