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First cousins marrying
« on: Sunday 20 February 11 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Please could I have some advice?  In the tree I am working on I have a female who marries her first cousin and has children. Therefore when I publish the tree (I use Ancestry) she appears twice with all her descendants.  How can I make it so that she appears once as the daughter of her father with no offspring and the descendants only appear as those of her and her husband?  I want to make it clear in the entry where she is the daughter that she married her cousin !

Very complicated!

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Re: First cousins marrying
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 February 11 11:08 GMT (UK) »
Hello there and welcome to Rootschat.

I have the same problem,my grandparents were first cousins.
It does make it slightly easier as you only have 6 great  grandparents- one pair appear twice- being the parents of both my gran's dad and grandad's dad  ;D

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Re: First cousins marrying
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 February 11 11:22 GMT (UK) »
This is one of numerous problems which occur in drawing or even documenting trees.  I try to work to one basic rule which is that I never show details of a female on her branch ofr a tree after her marriage.  Thus in your case after the marriage, which I would duplicate, all further details would be shown on the male line.

Similarly in the case where she marries into the family, I create a seperate tree to which I cross reference.  Thus for cousins before the marriage all details of the female before the marriage are on her line.

This rule can be adapted for electronically managed trees quite easily.

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Re: First cousins marrying
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 February 11 12:44 GMT (UK) »
Some software programs allow you to turn off duplicate entries of first cousin entries.  If you do not, then when you run something called an Outline Descendancy Report you will see entries like the example below:

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. 4 [1] Florence Eleanor Burchell 1889 -

. . . . . . . . . . + [2] Walter Stephen West 1887 -

. . . . . . . . . 4 Frederick George Burchell 1891 -

. . . . . . . . . 4 Maurice  Burchell 1893 -

. . . . . . . . . 4 Gertrude  Burchell 1896 -

. . . . . . . . . 4 Ethel  Burchell 1900 -

. . . . . . . . . 4 [3] Louisa  Burchell 1902 - 1988

. . . . . . . . . . + [4] James Thomas Henry West 1890 - 1963

. . . . . . . . . . . 5 [5] Ronald Richard James West 1920 - 1998

. . . . . . . . . . . . + [6] Joyce Eva Jeffrey 1926 - 1996


Where duplicate entries of inter-marriage descendants appear with numbers in square brackets.

If your Ascestry tree is not flexible enough to do what you want, then you can ask them to email you a GEDCOM file and you can use another program to print the information the way you want it.  For instance, PAF is a free program and you have the option to turn off duplicate entries when printing an Outline Descendancy report.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/
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Kent: Tuffee
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Re: First cousins marrying
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 February 11 09:23 GMT (UK) »
This problem is common in my family ,but I wont go into that .I also use Ancestry and the answer is when adding people (spouses and other relatives ) you have the option to click on somebody already in the tree .You are then offered the choice of viewing the entire  list of people which can be filtered alphabeticaly or filling in the name in a box which will take you to the person you need .
I hope this is understandable it does work and avoids duplication .
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