Elizabeth BLEE - born Madron abt 1798

[ozgreg]

Very interesting Wiggy.   What did you find that linked the Elizabeth born in Madron 1798 back to James Blee and Joan Warren?

If that is the case then maybe we still do link back to the Rippers at John Repper and Jemima Stevens (m 1706, Breage) but this time through their son John rather than their daughter Jemima.

http://www.kenripper.btinternet.co.uk/paf/ripper/pafg49.htm#18676

Regards,
Greg

[Wiggy]

It was the original link you were given on this thread I think Greg - post #5 by Osprey at the bottom of her reply - was only possible - but I've been looking at all OPC records for Cornwall this morning and this is the only James Blee (or any names sounding like  it) I've found.   Am going back to search for Bligh and similar names now, though Bligh and other also came up in the searches I was doing.

I hadn't found the Joan Warren - still getting there - did you find the marriage?

Wow - that is one confusing tree to read - will have to take time out to figure out how it works! 

Wiggy

[ozgreg]

Although there is James Bligh b 1762 in Breage  http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=1065198&dbtype=baptisms&formval=

This could also be Elizabeth Bligh of Madron's father.

A tough nut to crack.

Greg

[Wiggy]

Wish they'd decide what to call themselves!!

Her marriage certificate says Blee!   And she could so easily have 'been of this parish if she went to Madron to work - doesn't mean she was born there!!

As you say a tough nut!

Odd that whether Blee or Bligh it still leads back to Breage!   Also the parents are the same names - John and Elizabeth!       (Wonder if the first James died??    )

Wiggy  - mightily confused!

[Wiggy]

Alright - lots more looking later

I can find both James BLEE, 1858 and BLIGH, 1762, both Breage.

Birth for Joan Warren Breage 1755 - but that means she was 43 when she had  Elizabeth ?       (Only other birth I could find for a Joan Warren, 1756, was in Morval, and on the other side of Cornwall!   Searched up to 1776 )

There is a possible earlier marriage for Joan Warren - to Richard Randell (sojourner) 1782 in Constantine - not too far from Breage??   Wonder if she married twice, maybe?

I cannot find any marriage for James BLIGH yet - searched up to 1796. 
BUT  
Found James BLEE marrying Joan Warren in 1789, in Breage. 
Also found death for James Blee - and guess what - in 1815 he is said to be 55 - which puts his birth exactly between 1858 and 1862!!  Oh, the confusion!

Also found marriages
for John Hugh snr  to Jane James - also births and possible deaths for these two.

and John snr snr to Ursula Humphry(s) - also Ursula  and John's births -

Also John Blee to Elizabeth Ripper - told you that.   Also Elizabeth Ripper/Blee's probably death in 1829 aged 93

Have you got all these Greg - to your satisfaction??  And Wycheproof's also?? 

I would so love to contribute something to this family - something which is correct   !

Wiggy   

[wycheproof]

I cannot follow the line of the 4 Blee children being ch of James Blee and Joan Warren of Breage.
Can someone spell it out for me?

Blee and its variants is a rare name in Madron/Penzance so I believe they originated in the Breage area. But when did they move is the question.
And how does this entry fit in??

ELIZABETH BLEE
Christening: 07 MAR 1751     Penzance, Cornwall, England
Father:    JAMES BLEE   Family

[Wiggy]

Well I can't follow that family either truth to tell - but they are all there under James and Joan - I wonder if they moved between the first two and the second two!!  That would seem the obvious time as the first two were born in Breage.  And Osprey and Althea are saying not to put too much emphasis on the spelling.

Could that Elizabeth of 1751 possibly be a mistranscription - or an older generation? I've found quite a few children but not all of them.
Where did you find that one Wycheproof? 
I can't see that one in the OPC for Cornwall which I've been looking at - Have seen Edward son of Edward and Jemimah in 1750 - but no Elizabeth in 1751 to James.

I did notice that on the marriage documents it doesn't actually say 'born in'  - it says 'residence'  when talking about 'otp'

Wiggy   

[wycheproof]

I don't have access to the records you have Wiggy but I believe Edward 1795 and Elizabeth 1798 were children of James. No mention of Joan. I'd be interested to see how Joan is shown as their mother. or is it  because there was a Joan married to a James who had children around the same time?

The Elizabeth born Penzance 1751 to James was in the IGI.

[Wiggy]

I'm only using the links put up by Osprey and you can get to them too - free they are!   

Google Cornwall OPC and it is the first thing on the list - at the top of the page click on what you want to search for.  Great resource which I've only just found out how to access!   
Happy Hunting - I think these are probably more reliable than IGI as they are from the horses mouth so to speak!

Cheers

Wiggy