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Offline Kevin, now in Chester

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Re: Saving census records to my hard drive
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 26 March 11 13:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your responses.

I am saving from both Ancestry and FindMyPast.

I shall adjust the image settings on my machine and try expanding the image before saving.

Many thanks for your advice.

Kevin in Vienna
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Re: Saving census records to my hard drive
« Reply #10 on: Monday 23 May 11 13:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Kevin I use a tool called screen hunter 5.1 free, once installed open it  , L/click standby, or capture now, capture now open high light  rectangular area and draw a box round the item you want with your mouse and soon as you stop the mouse it saves a window, and you can place it on your desk top is as clear as the item you were looking at, I use it a lot...mick 
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Cook...glouc/shire.    Alderton... Thingoe/Suffolk

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Re: Saving census records to my hard drive
« Reply #11 on: Monday 23 May 11 17:33 BST (UK) »
Thank you for this.  I shall try this too.

I think the problem was using the autocorrect facility in MS Office Picture Manager.

Life has become much clearer since I started viewing the images I saved from Ancestry/FTM and Findmypast using Picasa, although I may have to re-save those I had already auto-corrected.

Best wishes from Vienna

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Re: Saving census records to my hard drive
« Reply #12 on: Monday 23 May 11 18:42 BST (UK) »
Hi again, the screen hunter is so easy to use, you can take picture after picture untill you get what you want, once on your d.top the world is your oyster, and what I like is its FREE............mick
Pringle..N-yorks.  Swann..Nthamptonshire. Newman..Wilts.  Whites...Surrey/london.  Filce..London/surrey.  McCarthy...Co Cork Eire.
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Cook...glouc/shire.    Alderton... Thingoe/Suffolk


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Re: Saving census records to my hard drive
« Reply #13 on: Friday 27 May 11 00:10 BST (UK) »
Just to pick upon the "jpg losing quality every time you save it".  The thing here is that jpg is a "lossy" compression.  This means that it compromises quality to reduce size.  Some image editing programmes allow you to choose the compression ratio before saving (higher ratio means smaller file but lower quality).  Opening, viewing and closing doesn't affect the image.  However, opening, editing then saving does re-compress.  This is why you shouldn't use jpg as a format for saving intermediate versions when restoring photos, etc.

I concur that it's best to maximise the source commercial image before saving (e.g. view at 200%).  My saved census images range from around 500k to 1200k each.

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Re: Saving census records to my hard drive
« Reply #14 on: Friday 27 May 11 08:23 BST (UK) »
Hi

A...y enhanced viewer downloads the "maximum" size image and displays that size (200%), or less, dependant upon your display setting.
It does not (re-)download a different (sized/properties) copy for different display settings.
(A...y does not hold separate/different copies of the same image)

You can prove this by saving the same image at 200%, 100% and 25%
(not forgetting to save using different file names   ;D   ).
You will find that each copy of the image is exactly the same and has the same properties and same file size as the other(s).


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« Reply #15 on: Friday 27 May 11 11:56 BST (UK) »


You can prove this by saving the same image at 200%, 100% and 25% ...

You will find that each copy of the image is exactly the same and has the same properties and same file size as the other(s).



The advanced viewer may handle things differently, but with the basic viewer differently-sized images are saved for each zoom level:

50% = 840 x 528 pixels
100% = 1680 x 1056 px
150% = 2520 x 1584 px
200% = 3360 x 2112 px

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Lewis: Llanfair Kilgeddin | Abergavenny | NZ
Stallworthy: Bucks. | Samoa | NZ
Brothers: Nottingham | NZ
Darling: Dunbar | Tahiti
Keat: St Minver | NZ
Bowles: Deal | NZ
Coaney: Bucks.
Jones: Brecon

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Re: Saving census records to my hard drive
« Reply #16 on: Friday 27 May 11 14:03 BST (UK) »
Hi (again)

Thanks Koromo, that prompted me to run this test on the 1901 census same person........

W7=machine running Windows7, Firefox
XP=machine running WindowsXP, Firefox

W7=standardviewer 200% 604kb 3076x2076   96dpi bitdepth=8
W7=standardviewer 100% 230kb 1538x1038   96dpi bitdepth=8
W7=standardviewer  50%    83kb  769x519     96dpi bitdepth=8
XP=enhancedviewer 200% 555kb 3076x2076 150dpi bitdepth=24
XP=enhancedviewer 100% 555kb 3076x2076 150dpi bitdepth=24
XP=enhancedviewer   50% 555kb 3076x2076 150dpi bitdepth=24

all output saved as .jpg

Remind me not to use the W7 machine to download  ::)

Cheers
Ray

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