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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 07 April 11 17:08 BST (UK) »
You might have already come across these, but just in case - when I found a surprise Jewish branch in my family JCR_UK http://www.jewishgen.org/JCR-UK/ and JGSGB http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/ really useful!
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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 07 April 11 17:08 BST (UK) »
'were' really useful - must learn to type all the words  :-[
GILBY - Essex, Warwickshire and Cambridgeshire
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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #29 on: Friday 08 April 11 11:15 BST (UK) »
Ah thank you, that's great!

I shall go take a look!

Best

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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #30 on: Friday 08 April 11 11:38 BST (UK) »
In terms of tracing Abraham back further, have you traced his marriage to Louisa? She was born in London so with any luck they will have married in England. Do you have her maiden name (from e.g. the birth certificate of Moss or one of his siblings)?

NB I see that they already had baby Benjamin before the 1841 census so they may or may not have married during the period covered by civil registration (1 Jul 1837 onwards).

His likely birth: Benjamin Abraham BENJAMIN, Jun qtr 1840 Whitechapel 2 506.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #31 on: Friday 08 April 11 17:32 BST (UK) »
9th Dec 1838 Abraham Benjamin son of Eliahu married a

leah Joseph daughter of Shmuel       Leah was often also called Louise

this marriage is in Great Synagogue records.
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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #32 on: Friday 08 April 11 17:36 BST (UK) »
Quote from: sandiep on Friday 08 April 11 17:32 BST (UK)
9th Dec 1838 Abraham Benjamin son of Eliahu married a

leah Joseph daughter of Shmuel       Leah was often also called Louise

this marriage is in Great Synagogue records.


Oh that's a great find!

Civil registration of the marriage is as follows:

Marriage, Dec qtr 1838

Abraham BENJAMIN
Leah JOSEPH

[City of] London 2 161
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #33 on: Friday 08 April 11 17:40 BST (UK) »
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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #34 on: Friday 08 April 11 20:02 BST (UK) »
Quote from: sandiep on Friday 08 April 11 17:32 BST (UK)
9th Dec 1838 Abraham Benjamin son of Eliahu married a

leah Joseph daughter of Shmuel       Leah was often also called Louise

this marriage is in Great Synagogue records.

Hi,  May I ask how you came about the information? That's really interesting. are Eliahu and Shmuel their surnames?

Thanks

Alex

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Re: Is my Grt grt Grandfather Jewish?
« Reply #35 on: Friday 08 April 11 20:05 BST (UK) »
Quote from: avm228 on Friday 08 April 11 11:38 BST (UK)
In terms of tracing Abraham back further, have you traced his marriage to Louisa? She was born in London so with any luck they will have married in England. Do you have her maiden name (from e.g. the birth certificate of Moss or one of his siblings)?

NB I see that they already had baby Benjamin before the 1841 census so they may or may not have married during the period covered by civil registration (1 Jul 1837 onwards).

His likely birth: Benjamin Abraham BENJAMIN, Jun qtr 1840 Whitechapel 2 506.

No, I don't yet have a birth certificate for any of the children. Was about to order

Adelaide Benjamin
Year of Registration:   1848
Quarter of Registration:   Apr-May-Jun
District:   Whitechapel
County:   London, Middlesex
Volume:   2
Page:   5[79]1 .

I'm not sure but it seems the most likely.  This should give me more information hopefully wouldn't you agree?

Thank you!

Alex
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