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WATSON Family from Therfield
« on: Friday 01 April 11 15:45 BST (UK) »
Hi,
    am hoping someone might be able to provide more information about the Watson's in Therfield.

My ancestor came to Australia in 1852, he was

James Watson
Birth 28 Aug 1827 in Therfield, Hertfordshire, England
Death 15 Feb 1902 in New South Wales, Australia

I think his parents were

William Watson
Birth 1787 in Therfield, Hertfordshire, England
Death  1872

and

Hester Esther Batt
Birth 21 Oct 1787 in Therfield, Hertfordshire, England
Death 1867 in Hertfordshire, England

but not 100% sure.

If anyone has any further information about this family, and in particular the lineage with some older ancestors, would be very grateful. Any general information about this family would also be gratefully accepted.

Thanks
Watson, Whalan, Cook, Klotz, Phelps, Weir, Wingfield, Pearson

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Re: Watson family from Therfield
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 April 11 20:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

James had siblings -

Eliza bp. 24/10/1813 - Therfield
Thomas bp. 17/7/1825     "
Joseph Bp. 31/10/1830     "

Parents wedding -
William Watson = Esther Batt 10/11/1812 Therfield

Haven't found William's bp. at Therfield but there is
Esther Batt 21/10/1787 dau. of William Batt & Martha

Then wedding of William Batt = Martha Parmer(sic) 6/11/1784

Hope this is of interest.
Regards
Lee
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Re: Watson family from Therfield
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 April 11 15:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks Lee

This is very interesting.

Have had a look at some of the cenuses from England 1841 and upwards, what I think is their family has Mary as being James wife and an Esther Watson living separately.

Do you see anything that confirms Esther aka Hester Esther Batt as being the parents, could they have gotten divorced ?

Any ideas ?

thanks again
cheers
Greg

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Re: Watson family from Therfield
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 April 11 16:28 BST (UK) »
Christening;
James WATSON, 25 December 1827, Therfield, Hertfordshire
Parents, WILLIAM and HESTER

People did not usually divorce in the early 1800's unless they were wealthy.

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Re: Watson family from Therfield
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 April 11 16:40 BST (UK) »
Hi

There is a burial at St Mary, Therfield for an Esther Watson on 4th October 1837, she was age 50

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Re: Watson family from Therfield
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 April 11 16:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Greg,
If you are referring to this 1841 Census;
HO107/446/14/Therfield
Hagger Family +
William WATSON, 53
Mary, 45
William, 21
Thoma, 16
JAMES, 13
Elizabeth KING, 15
Edward King, 12

Looks to me that William Remarried by 1841;

Marriage F/S Pilot;
William WATSON, Fathers name WILLIAM Watson
Mary KING, Fathers name THOMAS King
23 November 1839, Therfield, Hertfordshire
(2 Records on there and I combined info)

Looks like Mary had a couple of Illeg. Children when she Married William.

Eng/ Deaths Burials on F/S Pilot has;
Esther WATSON, Burial 04 October 1837, England, Age 50, Birth 1787

Checking with FreeBMD we have this Death Reg;
ESTHER Watson, Sept 1837, Royston, 6 350
ROYSTON is the Reg District for Therfield on the 1841 Census.

Trish :)

EDIT great minds think alike Rosie ;D
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Re: Watson family from Therfield
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 April 11 17:01 BST (UK) »
1851 Census WILLIAM is born c 1788, Royston, Herts and from 2nd Marriage we know his Father was also a William;
IGI Extracted;
William WATSON, Christened 18 March 1787, Royston, Hertfordshire
Parents WILLIAM/MARY

Possible Marriage William WATSON to Mary HAGGAR, 25 October 1785,
Royston, Hertfordshire
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Re: Watson family from Therfield
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 April 11 17:28 BST (UK) »
I am just summising here but Ii think that William WATSON Snr may have remarried as I can only find one Child to them William 1787;
BURIAL;
Mary WATSON, 22 October 1786

Marriage;
William WATSON
Mary POOLEY, 08 February 1790, Royston, Hertfordshire
I came to this when looking at other Christenings on the same Batch as William 1787.
THOMAS Watson, 04 March 1792, Royston, Hertford
EDWARD POOLEY Watson, 03 May 1795, Royston, Hertford

This may also be related to Wil Snr;
WILLIAM Watson, Christened 18 May 1766, Royston, Hertford
Parents, WILLIAM/MARY

A William WATSON Married Mary MISON, 14 October 1765, Royston, Hertford
(All IGI Extracted Records)

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Re: Watson family from Therfield
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 April 11 17:36 BST (UK) »
And finally Greg ;D

Marriage;
Therfield, Hertfordshire, England
25 December 1847
James WATSON, Age 20, Birth 1827, Father WILLIAM Watson
Rebecca OLIVER, Age 20, Birth 1827, Father JAMES Oliver
(Combination of 2 Records on Familysearch Pilot)
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