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Offline BashLad

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Re: look up please
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 25 May 11 21:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave.

I'm a bit busy at the minute so I'll just stick the facts down as I see them and if you have any particular questions or doubts I'll have a look at the weekend.

Also you can find these on LanOPC. The registers themselves don't have much more detail.

One thing to note is that I can't say with any certainty whatsoever that these single mothers married the fathers' of their children. But for research reasons I've assumed they have. One other thing of note (for me at least) is my grandmother was a Wane from Eccleston and I still have Wane relations (living Burnley, Knaresborough and Gloucestershire). So that's my interest in them. I'm descended from the Oliver mentioned below. And in case you're curious about his marriage to the Mary Heys , yes she was related to the other Heys and was Oliver's second cousin.  ::)

Baptisms: 8 Nov 1818 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
John Heys - Child of Ellen Heys
    Born: October 15 th
    Abode: Eccleston
    Notes: Single woman (illegitimate)

Banns: St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Richard Duckworth - Bachr. of this Parish
Ellen Heys - Spinster of this Parish
    Banns Read: 15 Nov 1818, 2nd: 22 Nov 1818, 3rd: 29 Nov 1818

Marriage: 15 Dec 1818 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Richard Duckworth - (X), Sawyer Bachelor of Eccleston
Ellen Heys - (X), Spinster of Eccleston
    Witness: James Marsden; William Heys

 Baptisms: 22 Jul 1798 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Richard Duckworth - son of Alice Duckworth
    Abode: This parish
    Notes: natural son (illegitimate)

Banns: St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Robert Wane - Bachr. of this Parish
Alice Duckworth - Spinster of this Parish
    Banns Read: 18 Aug 1799, 2nd: 25 Aug 1799, 3rd: 1 Sep 1799

Marriage: 18 Nov 1799 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Robert Wane - Bachelor of Eccleston
Alice Duckworth - Spinster of Eccleston
    Witness: Thomas Wright; William Wright

Burial: 22 Jul 1851 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Richard Wane -
    Age: 53
    Abode: Eccleston

Baptisms: 12 Jul 1829 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Oliver Wane - Child of Richard Wane & Ellen
    Abode: Eccleston
    Occupation: Sawyer

Baptisms: 28 Oct 1832 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Richard Wane - Child of Richard Wane & Ellen
    Abode: Eccleston
    Occupation: Sawyer
    Notes: alias Duckworth

Burial: 19 Dec 1833 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Richard Wane alias Duckworth -
    Age: 1
    Abode: Eccleston

Marriage: 25 Dec 1841 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
John Wane - Full Sawyer Bachelor of Eccleston
Elizabeth Heys - (X), Full Weaver Spinster of Eccleston
    Groom's Father: Richard Wane, Sawyer
    Bride's Father: Thomas Heys, Plasterer
    Witness: John ?; John Heys; James Marsden

Marriage: 3 Feb 1850 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Oliver Wane - (X), 18 Sawyer Bachelor of Eccleston
Mary Heys - (X), 18 Spinster of Eccleston
    Groom's Father: Richard Wane, Sawyer
    Bride's Father: Thomas Heys, Plasterer
    Witness: William Holmes; Thomas Moon

Marriage: 20 Dec 1863 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
John Wane - Full Joiner Widower of Eccleston
Sarah Holding - (X), Full Warper Spinster of Eccleston
    Groom's Father: Richard Wane, Sawyer
    Bride's Father: James Holding, Weaver

This is what my prose style file says about the John Wane you mention. If you disagree with or can correct any of it please just say.

John HEYS-WANE, born 15 October 1818 in Eccleston-in-Chorley, Lancashire. He was baptised 8 November 1818 in St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston; his mother is described as a “single woman” as this was three months before they married. He appears on the 1821 partial census of Eccleston. In 1841 he was a sawyer living with his parents at Wane’s Place, Eccleston. He married (1) Elizabeth HEYS 25 December 1841 in St Mary the Virgin Eccleston, CHORLEY England. She was the older sister of his younger brother Oliver’s wife and is therefore the daughter of Thomas HEYS and Jane CUERDEN mentioned in this file; they were second cousins. Their marriage was witnessed by John HEYS and James Marsden. In 1851 he was a sawyer living at Wood Art Bridge, Eccleston with his family. In 1861 he was a joiner living with his family at Narrow Lane, Eccleston; around the corner from Wood Art Bridge. His wife died in 1862. He married (2) Sarah HOLDING 20 December 1863 in St. Mary the Virgin Eccleston, CHORLEY England. This marriage was witnessed by Thomas WANE (who couldn’t write) and Jannet Critchley. In 1871 he was a joiner and his wife a cotton warper living at Eccleston Green, Eccleston. In 1881 he was a joiner living with his family at Bradley Lane, Eccleston. He died June 1886 in Eccleston, CHORLEY England. He was buried 29 June 1886 at St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston. He had six children with his first wife and one with his second.
 
WHITEHOUSE- Bromsgrove, WANE - Eccleston, TOWERS - Blackburn & Ribble Valley, COLLINGE - Rawtenstall, THOMAS - Penzance, Whitehaven, Haslingden.

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Re: look up please
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 25 May 11 22:08 BST (UK) »
There's these as well which I forgot to include.

Baptisms: 4 Mar 1821 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Robert Duckworth - Child of Richard Duckworth & Ellen
    Born: December 1820
    Abode: Eccleston
    Occupation: Carpenter

Marriage: 10 Sep 1843 St Mary the Virgin, Eccleston, Lancashire, England
Robert Wane - Full Calico Printer Bachelor of Eccleston
Ellen Norris - Full Weaver Spinster of Eccleston
    Groom's Father: Richard Duckworth, Lawyer (should be sawyer)
    Bride's Father: Richard Norris, Tailor
    Witness: Henry Nuttall; James Marsden
    Notes: Groom alias Duckworth
WHITEHOUSE- Bromsgrove, WANE - Eccleston, TOWERS - Blackburn & Ribble Valley, COLLINGE - Rawtenstall, THOMAS - Penzance, Whitehaven, Haslingden.

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Re: look up please
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 26 May 11 10:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Pete,
                 Thanks for all the info, it is going to take a bit of assimilating, I will try and fit all the info into my tree first and then get back to you but it will be a couple of days or later. John Wane was my gt-gt grandfather by the way not gt-grandfather, and there were nine children I think, that is if I have got my facts right, I haven't done any work on the tree for years but on whim typed in Wanes of Eccleston and here we are.

Cheers and thanks again, Dave

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Re: look up please
« Reply #30 on: Monday 30 May 11 22:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Peter, me again,
                                 I have'nt got my head round ALL the stuff you gave me yet but a lot does fit in with what I had found out. I must say you have been very thorough in your research and may be able to enlighten me further.
       I think I have most of the details from John Wane(Wawn) and Alice Fishwick through to Robert Wane marrying Alice Duckworth and having Richard (D/worth) Wane --who then had John Heys (Wane) with Elizabeth Heys. So now I know why I could not find gt grandfather's birth -- thanks. I do know or think that John Heys(Wane) and Eliz went on to have 9 children and obviously these are the people that I am interested in as part of my past;
Noah --5 children
Solomon -- may have died aged16
Alice ---                       died aged 15
David -- married  Margaret Wilson & moved to Chorley and had various jobs inc
coalminer, they had 8 children. I have more info on these.
William?
Abel died an infant
Ellen died aged 21
John died an infant
Eliz married Robt Eastham
John died an infant
Time to go for a pint now. If you know anything more thay you think may be useful please let me know.

Cheers Dave


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Re: look up please
« Reply #31 on: Friday 14 April 23 17:18 BST (UK) »
I'm a little late to the conversation but thanks all for the confirmation that the information I have is correct.   Noah Heyes and Ann are my 3 x great grandparents.