COMPLETED - BIDLAKE, HOSE and WAKEFIELD Manawatu/Wanganui families

[kiwilisa]

What a shame.  At least we know...

Fingers crossed, hey?  Let me know if and how I can help.  Would be even better if I could get my hands on the papers my mother has...

[taonga1]

That's actually not a bad idea - we should probably map out all the living descendents we know of and ask who might have information and/or photos.  The answers are very likely sitting in boxes in someone's cupboard someplace!

I can work out who all the living Wakefields are - there aren't many.
You've got the best access to Hose information.
Wonder if we can find anyone on the Bidlake side who is interested?

[3foot3]

Hi there,

I'm a Bidlake lol
grand father - arthur clive
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I'd be keen to find out some more lol



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[taonga1]

Hi Sonya  :-)   I don't have a lot specifically about the Bidlakes, although, of course, if you are descended from the same Bidlake in this tree, then you'll share the Wakefield ancestor too. 

I have:

Clara Mary Wakefield, born 1885
married Walter James Bidlake in 1909

Their son Cyril Walter Leonard Bidlake, born 1910

They possibly had other children - I know I have more raw data on them someplace, but this is what's made it to my tree

[taonga1]

I've picked up your line, although I can't see a link yet - it's maybe possible that there's a link further back - I would suspect that your Sidney Herbert and our Walter James are probably brothers.  Sidney born approx 1879, Walter b. 1880, and I think they were both in Wanganui.

Sidney Herbert Bidlake (carpenter, Wanganui)
m. Ettie O'Neale in 1911

Children:
- Arthur Clive 1912
- Leslie Herbert 1914
- Hazel Bernice 1915
- Roy Neale 1917
(Possibly others later on)

Also found a piece on Sidney in a 1918 newspaper:  https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/WC19180206.2.21?query=military%20service%20board

[Jamjar]

I cannot see a Sidney Bidlake born in NZ.

However, there are Bidlake arriving on the barque Ironsides in 1879: James, Mary Ann, Leonard and Sydney.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THA18790819.2.6?query=Bidlake

Then later that year J Bidlake opens a watch and clockmaker business, in Newmarket:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18791202.2.2.7?query=Bidlake

Deaths of James and Leonard:

1883/4832 Bidlake James 34
1884/2153 Bidlake Leonard 6
Death notice for Leonard: https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS18840816.2.60?query=Bidlake

1954/34991 Bidlake Ettie 70
1960/38673 Bidlake Sidney Herbert 81

The connection? Marriage notice for Bidlake/ Wakefield: https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19340918.2.2.4?query=Bidlake

Jamjar

[taonga1]

Well done!  I was just trawling through immigration records, having not found a birth for Sidney in NZ.

That means Sidney and our Walter James are brothers.  Walter was born to James and Mary Ann in Newmarket. 

When James died, Mary Ann (nee Griffin, in one source) married William Charles Strong in 1885. 

I have a birth for Sydney Herbert Bidlake, 1879, Epsom, Surrey England

[Jamjar]

Marriage for the mother: 1885/1052 Mary Ann Bidlake   William Charles Strong

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

BIDLAKE, LEONARD  FRANK  mmn GRIFFIN
GRO Reference: 1877  S Quarter in EPSOM  Volume 02A  Page 20

BIDLAKE, SYDNEY  HERBERT mmn GRIFFIN
GRO Reference: 1879  M Quarter in EPSOM  Volume 02A  Page 16

Jamjar