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Offline Luzzu

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"A Skeleton in the Cupboard"
« on: Wednesday 13 April 11 17:01 BST (UK) »
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Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire

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Re: "A Skeleton in the Cupboard"
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 April 11 18:40 BST (UK) »
Wow, that's a great article, nice that he is finally buried!  :)

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Re: "A Skeleton in the Cupboard"
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 April 11 21:49 BST (UK) »
Interesting story.

I'm curious how many of us would go to this much effort to put an ancestor's burial right. Thoughts?
MACDONALD of Benbecula, Scotland, Earlswood/Wapella Sask
BAIN of Aberdeenshire, Trafford district, Red Jacket and Moosomin, Sask
CHEYNE of Aberdeenshire & Trafford district, Sask
FISHER of Yorkshire, Ontario & Saskatchewan
INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
KINCH of Ireland, PEI, Ab, Sask
CORCORAN of Ireland, PEI & Sask
GOTZ / GOETZ of Soufflenheim, Alsace & Ont
MITTELHAUSSER of Soufflenheim, Alsace
MULLER or MILLER of Drusenheim, Alsace & Ont

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Re: "A Skeleton in the Cupboard"
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 April 11 15:14 BST (UK) »
The really creepy part is that the cobwebby skeleton was kept with a rope round his neck!  :o And ugh, the thought of binding a book with the murderer's skin :o
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FAIREY/FAIRY/FAREY/FEARY, LAWSON, CHURCH, BENSON, HALSTEAD from Easton, Ellington, Eynesbury, Gt Catworth, Huntingdon, Spaldwick, Hunts;  Burnley, Lancs;  New Zealand, Australia & US.

HURST, BOLTON,  BUTTERWORTH, ADAMSON, WILD, MCIVOR from Milnrow, Newhey, Oldham & Rochdale, Lancs., Scotland.


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Re: "A Skeleton in the Cupboard"
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 April 11 16:37 BST (UK) »
Agree that it was pretty grotesque and didn't seem very "civilized".
MACDONALD of Benbecula, Scotland, Earlswood/Wapella Sask
BAIN of Aberdeenshire, Trafford district, Red Jacket and Moosomin, Sask
CHEYNE of Aberdeenshire & Trafford district, Sask
FISHER of Yorkshire, Ontario & Saskatchewan
INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
KINCH of Ireland, PEI, Ab, Sask
CORCORAN of Ireland, PEI & Sask
GOTZ / GOETZ of Soufflenheim, Alsace & Ont
MITTELHAUSSER of Soufflenheim, Alsace
MULLER or MILLER of Drusenheim, Alsace & Ont

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Re: "A Skeleton in the Cupboard"
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 April 11 17:46 BST (UK) »
Very tragic. Obviously the surgeon did n't think he had anything to do with it.

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Re: "A Skeleton in the Cupboard"
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 April 11 20:48 BST (UK) »
Do you know if the family got the book and was it buried with him?  I rather think Dr Smith had a lot to answer for there.

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Re: "A Skeleton in the Cupboard"
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 April 11 07:47 BST (UK) »
Was the doctor familiar with the Marquis de Sade? Was n't he supposed have done something similar.

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Re: "A Skeleton in the Cupboard"
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 May 11 16:02 BST (UK) »
Interesting story.

I'm curious how many of us would go to this much effort to put an ancestor's burial right. Thoughts?

I am in the middle of something similar...similar but different if you catch me.

Many of you who have read my other posts will see that I am searching for James Murphy who died in Wandsworth Prison, England.
He died by 'hanging by the neck until dead' for a robbery and murder which went a bit wrong... it was supposed to be a robbery but the fight that ensued went wrong and the poor man died....

James Murphy was my great grandfather and his story has intrigued me and so i have researched his case through prison archives and various docs....
i was saddened to discover that since his hanging and burial there has been a road built over him!!

I know he went to prison for something terrible however im not sure about the whole 'being built over'
the road was built over him in the 80's and a number of other people were exhumed when this was done.... Lord Haw Haw i believe was one of those pulled up from the plot area....
however my great grandad is still under there being driven over every day....

IMHO i have respect for the dead regardless of why they are dead and i would never consider building on them! in todays day and age a little more compassion from authorities would  be expected and a exhumation and reburial of all prisoners in the area shold have been conducted, but apparently we are still in the cold emotional age of the Victorians here and none of the families were ever contacted lol  ;D So i have contacted various persons with review of my ggrandad being exhumed and released to our family so i can put him under some trees or if he  has to remain within prison walls as part of his punishment, then for him to be reburied in another area of the prison....

fingers crossed its granted and i can move him on

Murphys of Croydon, Surrey, England.
James Murphy b.1898 d.1927 - PHOTOGRAPHS