Creighton - Roscommon to US

[*Sandra*]

I tend to agree with that Shelly - especially when the beta site says "the following results don't strongly match what you searched for, but may be of interest" and bingo its exactly what you asked for !!

The marriage record that I have seen for Thomas Creighton to Mary Tarpey did'nt mention parents - have you come across one that does ? Ages can be out on Census but according to the 1900 Census Thomas (Age 39 years) was born October 1860 and it was consistant that in 1910 he was 50 years old. The death entry showed him as aged 44 years which would have made his birth date 1872  

So 2 Thomas Creighton born 1852 - 1 to Andrew Creighton and Maria Mannion and 1 to Michael Creighton and Anna Gara both in Roscommon.

Regards
Sandra

[Franlynch]

re: tarpey marriage, i have one somewhere but i will have to check my files, not sure if hard copy or on pc at work.
i thought of something else, i need to check 1911 census for creighton mcgarry to see how many children they had and how many still living..  never thought that thomas 1882 may have been still born and they named a following child thomas.

[Franlynch]

1911 irish census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Roscommon/Faireymount/Leitrim/764658/
looks like 8 born 8 still living.

[Franlynch]

Tarpey marriage - no parents on cert - written notes from relation that parents were Andrew who married Maria mannion, Thomas who married Tarpey had brother Michael who married ann gill. Tarpey marriage on 15th April 1889 he aged 30

[*Sandra*]

Michael Creighton (Proprietor of Liquor Business and brother of Thomas who was murdered) was married to Margaret Gorman in 1910. The Census states he had been marriage 1 for 3 years - see reply 14.    22 nd June 1906 Chicago. Cook. Illinois.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0crt/

Regards
Sandra

[*Sandra*]

On the 1910 Census Michael's immigration date was 1883.  Have found an entry on www.castlegarden.org for a Michael Creighton aged 19 years - labourer - travelling on the Wisconsin - Country of Birth :- England    but it unfortunately does'nt give any further details. 

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0crv/

[Franlynch]

I have marriage cert in front of me now for Thomas Creighton, aged 30, married Mary (Maria) Tarpey, her age looks like 20, on 15th april 1889, makes him thomas creighton 1860 and the one that thomas 1886 is with along with cousin gara in 1910.
if i understand correctly, that this thomas, husband of tarpey is the one that was murdered then his dates don't match.  murdered on april 1916 aged 44 gives birth year of 1872!! am i missing something or just totally confusing you , sorry

[*Sandra*]

Hello Fran,

Have taken 2 asprins and had a lie down in a dark room  (Only joking)

The marriage date for Thomas and Mary Tarpey is 28th April 1889. Thomas was 30 years old and Maria 24 years according to this entry

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0crw/

The death entry may be an error, after all,  the other details of him being a bartender and shot in his brothers saloon, newspaper reports etc all fit with the 1910 Census details of addresses etc.,

Could have made himself a little younger to impress the younger wife.  Really the birth date should be 1852 if he is the son of Andrew and Maria.  Not uncommon for men to reduce there age !!

Regards
Sandra

[Franlynch]

i found on family search the following: -
thomam creighton
male
baptism / christening - 28 Oct 1852
father's name Andreae Creighton
Mother's name - Mariae Manion

seems to be transcribed in Latin. 
but - and i am sorry to do this - Thomas death cert says that his father's name was Thomas Creighton, mother's maiden name unknown (wouldn't take too much notice of that though).  how much do you hate me now