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Re: Rose Anna Burns not Rose Hannah Hulme
« Reply #9 on: Friday 15 April 11 08:58 BST (UK) »
Ha Ha ...can you imagine being a vicar /registrar /census adjudicator ,talking to a husband and wife ...one from Sligo and one from Kerry...I`ll bet no-one could understand a word they said....probably why the name changed willy nilly..........anyway...between us I think Joyce will be happy with the outcome....cheers...allan :)
ADDED...from the info you have posted Rambler...do you think the witness at the marriage
Mary Ellen Elison would be nee Mary Ellen Burns....Rose Annas sister...now married ?
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Re: Rose Anna Burns not Rose Hannah Hulme
« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 April 11 09:10 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has the father from 1881 census transcribed as Oliver Beirns!

No wonder I had trouble finding him!!  :(
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Re: Rose Anna Burns not Rose Hannah Hulme
« Reply #11 on: Friday 15 April 11 09:33 BST (UK) »
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do you think the witness at the marriage
Mary Ellen Elison would be nee Mary Ellen Burns....Rose Annas sister...now married ?

I think it might be John's sister from the census you posted:

Marriages Dec 1890
ELLISON  William
RIGBY  Mary Ellen
Prescot 8b 1001

(Not on Lancs BMD unfortunately.)

Sister Johnanna marries as BYRNES, by the way, so there's another variation!   ::)
ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Rose Anna Burns not Rose Hannah Hulme
« Reply #12 on: Friday 15 April 11 09:51 BST (UK) »
1881
RG11/3738/69/39 - Fleet Lane, Parr, Lancs
Owen O'BEIRNE  Head  42  Alkali Lab  b. Ireland
Ellen O'BEIRNE  Wife  43  b. Ireland
Patrick B O'BEIRNE  Son  20  Rolling Mills Lab  b. Parr
Peter O'BEIRNE  Son  18  Colliery Lab  b. Parr
Mary O'BEIRNE  Dau  16  None  b. Parr
Bridget O'BEIRNE  Dau  14  None  b. Parr
Johanna O'BEIRNE  Dau  13  Scholar  b. Parr
Rosanna O'BEIRNE  Dau  10  Scholar  b. Parr
Owen O'BEIRNE  Son  8  Scholar  b. Parr
Catherine O'BEIRNE  Dau  3  b. Parr

The image is a bit clearer than 1871 and really does look like O'Beirne.
ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Rose Anna Burns not Rose Hannah Hulme
« Reply #13 on: Friday 15 April 11 22:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for all your searches! It's brought up more results than I expected - brilliant!

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Re: Rose Anna Burns not Rose Hannah Hulme
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 17 April 11 11:04 BST (UK) »
When I looked in Freebmd for a James Rigby born around 1842 there were quite a few of that name born in the area where he lived later on so it's hard to know which one was my ancestor! 

Joyce

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Re: Rose Anna Burns not Rose Hannah Hulme
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 17 April 11 11:12 BST (UK) »
I guess I would need to go on the Irish thread for Sligo to find more information about Owen O' Beirne who was born there around 1838.
Thank you for finding the information about where Rose Anna's father was born.

Joyce

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Re: Rose Anna Burns not Rose Hannah Hulme
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 17 April 11 11:15 BST (UK) »
New thread on Sligo board for Owen O'Beirne-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,527215.msg3819512.html
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Rose Anna Burns not Rose Hannah Hulme
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 17 April 11 22:14 BST (UK) »
I did find out that James Rigby's father was Raymond Ward and his mother was Mary Dixon. They were married in 1859 and both were born in 1841 in Bolton.
I can't seem to go any further back with this one!

Joyce from Oz
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