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1901 Census look up for Ruth Richardson
« on: Monday 02 May 11 00:51 BST (UK) »
I'm new and would love some help on how to trace "my roots" My Grandmother was Ruth Richardson, born in 1900 in Bedfordshire, not sure where but somewhere near Biggleswade where I was born. She died in 1993 in Bedford. I would love to try and find out some thing about her parents and family, unfortunately both my parents are now also no longer with us. She was married twice, first to someone "Mayne" they had two sons, John and Dennis, then to my mothers dad, Edmund Butler in 1933. My mother Valerie Ruth was born in 1934, her dad died the same year aged 21. I know my nan had brothers and sisters one of which I believe was called "Kitty" and a younger sister Gladys. If anyone has any idea how I could find out about my Grandad Edmund Butler as well that would be fantastic, I think his dad was also called Edmund Butler and I think my nan and he were married in Lambeth in 1933.

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Re: 1901 Census look up for Ruth Richardson
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 May 11 01:05 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

According to her death reg - Ruth was born 5.5.1900 but there is no birth in Bedfordshire for her

Her birth should have been registered in the June qtr of 1900 and the only 2 Ruth Richardsons were in Merthyr Tydfil and Dartford

There is a birth in Sunderland in the September qtr but that would be a bit late for a May birth registration

This is her first marriage

Marriages June qtr 1922   John L Mayne/Ruth Richardson  Biggleswade  3b 937

The only birth for a John L Mayne I can find was in 1873 which would make him 27 years older than Ruth

There is no death in Beds - did they divorce?

Second marriage

Edmund P Butler / Ruth Mayne Or Richardson September qtr 1933  Lambeth
Vol 1d P 799



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Re: 1901 Census look up for Ruth Richardson
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 May 11 01:11 BST (UK) »
The 1911 free index has a Ruth Richardson aged 10 living in Biggleswade but the entry does not match to a Bedfordshire birthplace

We are not allowed to post 1911 details due to copyright restrictions but using only the free index can give you some information - see instructions below

This is what those details show - all surname Richardson

Richard 58
Kate 54
Harry 21
May 19
Ruth 10
Gladys 4

USING THE FREE 1911 INDEX TO DETERMINE THE CORRECT HOUSEHOLD

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

Once you find a possible match - make a note of the county and district in which the person was living

Return to the index and in PERSONAL DETAILS - just put the surname of the family - nothing else

In LOCATION - Select the county and below it - type in the district

In OTHER MEMBERS OF THE HOUSEHOLD - show the full name of the person you have found on the index

Click SEARCH

You will have to buy credits to view the full entry - the above instructions will only help to possibly show others of the same name in the same household


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Re: 1901 Census look up for Ruth Richardson
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 May 11 01:16 BST (UK) »
This is the same family on the 1901 census living in Crayford Kent - Ruth's age ties in with a May birthday

Richard Richardson 49 b Beeston Beds - agric labourer
Kate   44 b Beeston
Frederick   16 ditto
Annie   14       ditto
Harry  11 b Erith Kent
May 8         ditto
Kate 4        ditto
Ruth   10 Months b Crayford Kent
RG13 Piece 697 Folio 123 Page 3
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Re: 1901 Census look up for Ruth Richardson
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 May 11 01:39 BST (UK) »
According to his death reg - Edmund was Edmund P Butler so this is his birth reg

Births September qtr 1913   
Edmund P Butler - mothers maiden name  Hingley  Southwark  1d 236


His parents marriage

Marriages September qtr 1910
   
Edmund J Butler/Lilian E Hingley  Southwark  1d 238   
 
Births June qtr 1889   
Lilian Elsie Hingley    Camberwell  1d 845

2 possible births for Edmund snr - Islington being the most likely

Births December qtr 1884
 
Edmund James Butler    Islington  1b 270   
Edmund Joseph Butler    Eastbourne  2b 90

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Re: 1901 Census look up for Ruth Richardson
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 May 11 03:19 BST (UK) »
Carole W Thanks you so, so much, this was so fast and so amazing. I think all this info relates to my family, I've learnt more today than I have known my entire lifetime.

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Re: 1901 Census look up for Ruth Richardson
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 May 11 10:35 BST (UK) »
Hi

Had to give up last night - it was late!

Resume today with some info on Edmund James Butler b 1884 Islington

He was christened on 28.9.1884 at St Michaels Islington  - parents George occupation a porter - and Jane   Their address at that time was 259 Copenhagen St

Couldn't find an 1891/1901 census entry so searched and found a death on freebmd  in March qtr 1886 in Islington  See my reply below re: 1911 index entry

 
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Re: 1901 Census look up for Ruth Richardson
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 May 11 10:59 BST (UK) »
I am a bit bothered as the free 1911 index shows an Edmund JAMES Butler b 1888 living in Southwark which matches to a Lilian Butler using the instructions above.

His birthplace does not match to Sussex or Eastbourne so you will need a copy of that 1910 marriage cert to establish his fathers name as there are no other births on freebmd that match his name or a birthyear of 1887/1888

You will also need to view the 1911 entry to see where he was born
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Re: 1901 Census look up for Ruth Richardson
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 May 11 12:34 BST (UK) »
Hi, welcome to rootschat (speaking like a professional - I only joined three days ago!)

Here's the Richardson family in 1881:

Living in North Road, Sandy, Bedford (all born Beeston):
Richard Richardson, Head, 28, ag lab
Kate E., Wife, 23
Gertrude, Dau, 5
Susan, Dau, 4
William E., Son, 2
Harry, Son, 1 month

Free BMD:

Marriages Dec 1875 (Oct-Nov-Dec):
Blundell, Sarah Ann
Jeeves, Kate Elizabeth
Richardson, Richard

Swift, Richard Temple
(In Biggleswade)