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Re: Edith Alice Johnson-Johnston/e
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 07 May 11 13:02 BST (UK) »
It seems that Edith may have travelled quite a bit. You've done so well, I really appreciate your help. :)

On Find my Past in 1922 London to Wellington, there is Hitches born 1888 (be close to Edith's Birth) a J Hitches born 1918, this matches Isobels birth and I have come across I being mistaken for a J before. Theres also a W Hitches born 1874, this would be William senior and he was quite abit older than ELizabeth and a W Hitches born 1921, close to William, son's age. I haven't seen the full entry but am pretty sure this is them. I haven't found Vera travelling to NZ.

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Re: Edith Alice Johnson-Johnston/e
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 07 May 11 13:27 BST (UK) »
Ruth

I do believe you may have been on the right track from the start. A family tree on Ancestry has Ediths mother as Ann E, no father given. It appears Vera may have stayed in the States with her father. Vera married a Samuel Tredwell 1935, Chicago and she died 1944 in Indiana. Charles Thomas Simpson is the father..Charles divorced in 1915, remarried in 1917, divorced in 1924 and remarried again in 1924. Ill have to check out the information because it doesn;t say what year he first married and it looks like the 1st divorce in 1915 was to his first wife and not Edith.

Siblings for edith William F born 1876, Mary A, 1878 and Harriet E :) born 1873

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Re: Edith Alice Johnson-Johnston/e
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 07 May 11 13:32 BST (UK) »
Looks like Harriet in 1881 is with her parents - Henry and Ann

Henry is given as a metal planer - i wonder if that could be taken as an Engineer at a stretch or he went from planing metal to engineering
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Re: Edith Alice Johnson-Johnston/e
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 07 May 11 13:34 BST (UK) »

Ruth

I do believe you may have been on the right track from the start. A family tree on Ancestry has Ediths mother as Ann E, no father given. It appears Vera may have stayed in the States with her father. Vera married a Samuel Tredwell 1935, Chicago and she died 1944 in Indiana.

Siblings for edith William F born 1876, Mary A, 1878 and Harriet E :) born 1873

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lil


There are more siblings according to 1881 - Zelpha (aged 9), Harriett (aged 7), William (aged 5), Mary A (aged 3) and Leah aged 1
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Pearce (South Wales)


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Re: Edith Alice Johnson-Johnston/e
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 07 May 11 13:37 BST (UK) »
Excellent detective work Ruth! This family is growing by the minute ;D

This is awesome!

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Re: Edith Alice Johnson-Johnston/e
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 07 May 11 13:40 BST (UK) »
its no trouble at all!

having looked at the transcript of the 1922 voyage to NZ, I would go with that being the family.
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Re: Edith Alice Johnson-Johnston/e
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 07 May 11 13:43 BST (UK) »
Looks like Harriet in 1881 is with her parents - Henry and Ann

Henry is given as a metal planer - i wonder if that could be taken as an Engineer at a stretch or he went from planing metal to engineering

There are 2 possible marriages for the parents in Sheffield in 1871/1872 (assuming Zelpha is the eldest child)

Henry Johnson to Ann Elizabeth Sergar (June Quarter 1872)
Henry Johnson to Ann Elizabeth Wilkinson (June Quarter 1871)
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Re: Edith Alice Johnson-Johnston/e
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 07 May 11 13:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Ruth

Yes sorry, I modified my above posting, Charles did marry previously to Edith and also after, but I wll need to check the details as the divorces aren't consistent with the remarriages. Ist marriage was to Margaret ? no marriage date given and 2nd marriage was to Francis Steen, 3rd marriage to Edith and last marriage to Margaret Martin.

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Re: Edith Alice Johnson-Johnston/e
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 07 May 11 14:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Ruth

Yes sorry, I modified my above posting, Charles did marry previously to Edith and also after, but I wll need to check the details as the divorces aren't consistent with the remarriages. Ist marriage was to Margaret ? no marriage date given and 2nd marriage was to Francis Steen, 3rd marriage to Edith and last marriage to Margaret Martin.

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lil

He is in 1930 with a wife called Margaret and Vera (aged 22) is with him too so at least the marriage to Margaret Martin might be right - Margaret was 32 in 1930.  The other children with them are Marguerite (aged 4) and Charles T aged ?14

He was 45 in 1930 therefore born around 1885, so if he married Edith in 1906 (so aged about 21) he may have trouble jamming in 2 marriages before Edith

1920 though he is married to a lady called Grace - his 1918 WW1 draft registration card gives her as next of kin....

so we have.....

marriage to Edith in 1906 with child Vera

marriage to Grace sometime between 1910 and 1918, with at least one child Kenneth (aged 18 months on 1920 census)

marriage to Margaret between 1920 and 1930

and somewhere needing to fit in the children Charles T and Marguerite!
Jeacock
Colebourne
Shepherd
Scotter
Sievers
Knowles
Pritchard
Lilley
Hart/Hertz
Woodmansey
Monnington
Thomas (South Wales)
John (South Wales)
Pearce (South Wales)