Thrandeston PRs look up please

[iluleah]

George Groom born 1802 in the 1841 census it says

HO107/1821 473 1
Tivetshall St Margaret, Norfolk  born Suffolk ?Trandliston? ( I think it is Thrandeston  Suffolk)

However, in the 1881 it says 
RG11 Piece / Folio  1969 / 61 Page Number  2   born  Eye, Suffolk and I think this is the right George Groom as he is living/staying with Fanny Dye nee Groom ( his daughter)

He married Amelia Kemp
12 Nov 1827 St Margarets Tivetshall Norfolk, no parents mentioned, although John kemp is staying/living with them in 1851 marked as birth place unknown and 1841  living at (HO107/758/15 7 Tivetshall St Margaret, Norfolk  'not born in county'

I can’t find their marriage on the Suffolk marriage strays.

I need to find George Groom’s parents and birth place. I don't know Suffolk very well so eg is  Thrandeston in Eye parish area ( I know they are only about 4 miles apart)

I have found several George Groom’s born somewhere in Suffolk around that date, so need other records to cross reference for his correct birth place and hopefully his parent’s names.


Hope someone can help?

TIA

From some hard work and kind people I have IGI information about the people below. Could someone check the PRs for information/clarification re these people

Robert Groom and Elizabeth Barnard

Robert bp.11/5/1794
John bp.30/8/1795
George bp.14/7/1799
Anne bp.9/5/1801
Sarah bp.30/3/1810
Enoch bp.1814 (no full date)

Also a George Groom died in 1800, not sure if it is the child above

ALSO my George Groom born Thrandeston c1801/2 who was still alive in 1881 his birth

[Suffolk Mawther]

The parish church at Thrandeston is dedicated to Saint Margaret and the PRs are available from 1558 on just 11 fiche, so not a big busy parish.

Don't forget you can 'visit' Suffolk churches courtesy of Simon via his website
www.suffolkchurches.co.uk

Both Thrandeston and Tivetshall St Margaret are near to one of the main ancient road routes - it begins near Stowmarket (Needham Market) Suffolk going through to Norwich Norfolk.  Still a very busy road today.

Pat ...

PS - almost forgot to mention that if you go to Simon's website, you can connect to his Norfolk Churches web site too 

[iluleah]

Hi Pat

Thank you for the  information and link I will take a look

[groom]

Hello again.

Where did you get the marriage from?

There is a submitted record on IGI Family Search (so this needs to be checked carefully) giving George Groom's marriage to Amelia Kemp. They say she was born 1800 Dickleborough Suffolk father John Kemp and he was born Thraneston. They also give a marriage abt 1822 Trandleston.

Children from this marriage are given as Charles 1832, Eliga 1834 and Maria 1838.

As you say, the 1851 census gives his place of birth as Thraneston, so does the 1861: RG 9/1232/190/12 and the 1871: RG 10/1835/85/8 so apart from the 1881 he is pretty constant as to his place of birth.

Jan

[iluleah]

Hi Jan

Nice to here from you...I got the marriage from freereg 12 Nov 1827 Tivetshall St Margarets Norfolk.

Not seen the IGI info, I will add it as IGI (  I don't trust IGI, just use it as a clue about where to look)
John 1830, Charles 1833, Elijah 1834, Fanny 1836 and Maria 1838 are who I have as the couples children.

Thank you for checking the 1861/1871, George was 80 years old by the 1881 so I wonder if someone else gave the enumerator the info? So my thought is it is Thraneston is where I need to concentrate a search on.

[Annette7]

Hi

The familysearch pilot site shows:

George Groom bp.14/7/1799 Thrandeston, Suffolk son of Robert Groom and Elizabeth Barnard.

If you just do a search on births/christenings for the surname Groom in Thandeston, Suffolk it will bring up his siblings too.

Annette

[iluleah]

Thank you Annette...I will investigate

[iluleah]

Hi Annette...not sure where you are looking on familysearch, (it is not a website I use much) however I think maybe if these are the right parents,  there was another previous George Groom Burial Date:    08 Dec 1800 ( same parents)...can't find anyone else but I notice there are several 'familysearch' websites and all seem different

[Annette7]

There are 3 familysearch sites you can view at the moment: familysearch beta, familysearch pilot and familysearch (old original site)

The address for the pilot site is:

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home

I can't get on with the new beta site so use the pilot site whilst it's still up and running and the old original one.

Robert Groom and Elizabeth Barnard were the only couple having children baptised in this period - 6 shown:

Robert bp.11/5/1794
John bp.30/8/1795
George bp.14/7/1799
Anne bp.9/5/1801
Sarah bp.30/3/1810
Enoch bp.1814 (no full date)

Annette