For 'Linmey' re Woodhams from Bedfordshire

[linmey]

Hi all,
The last of the line that I have for my Woodham`s is JW and Sarah Cranfield. Is the line under discussion  linked to them??

Linda.

[tickle]

Hi Linda

Can you be more specific as to time and place please.

TVM

Tickle

[tickle]

Don't worry, found it. Marriage 1744 at Kempston. Quite likely that they are connected but can't tell you how. John was a fairly common name among Woodhams. There was a John Woodham son of Thomas Woodham and Sarah Stoakes baptised at Riseley 12 June 1726 who would fit, just, but no way of knowing without further investigation. I would get hold of the original entry for the marriage, and see if it gives you any details which parish John came from, (Kempston is likely to be the bride's parish, but even that is not infallible.) and see what it tells you. There was another John Woodham married in Bedford in 1744 as well, so it gets more confusing.

Hope this helps

Tickle

[emilysiobhan]

Thistle,

Thanks for the further Woodham info. It is difficult isn't it the further one goes back to be 100% sure one has the "right" person, especially when they are all called things like John and Thomas. And when most people probably weren't very literate either to be able to check that their details were all written correctly by the priest/etc.

With best regards,

Emily

[linmey]

Thank you very much Tickle. You are correct, John is an extremely common name in the Woodham family. it was quite a relief to find a Philip to ring the changes. 

[johnP-bedford]

Hi all,
The last of the line that I have for my Woodham`s is JW and Sarah Cranfield. Is the line under discussion  linked to them??
Linda.

I may have posted this before or you may well know the details.

John Woodham & Sarah Cranfield were married at Kempston on 1 Jan 1744/45, both were from Kempston as per the PR transcript. They baptised first child William at Kempston on 3 Nov 1745 (born 20/10/1745), the next child John baptised at Felmersham on 1 Feb 1745/46 (he was buried Sharnbrook on 5 Feb 1747/48). Then the next 3 children - John 4 May 1749, Mary 1 May 1751 & Nathaniel 18 Nov 1753 - were baptised Bedford St.John's where the PR says parents were from Sharnbrook. The next 5 children - Jeffrey 1 Nov 1758, Phillip 9 Jun 1760, Elizabeth 4 Jun 1762, Susannah 25 Apr 1765 & Samuel 16 Jul 1769 were all baptised Sharnbrook. There is also a burial of Sarah, daughter of John & Sarah Woodham buried on 1 Jan 1771 at Sharnbrook but I cannot see the baptism. Also I've not found the deaths/burials of parents John and Sarah.

** NB. There is a burial in Sharnbrook on 23 Jul 1782 of John Woodham, junior that I suspect to be John's son John who was baptised 1749 who married Elizabeth Neale on 6/10/1768. this indicates J W senior is still alive at this time.

John Woodham was alive & living in Sharnbrook as per the apprentice record found by David in 2011. WOODHAM, Samuel, son of John, Sharnbrook, Beds, victualler, to George Summerlin, 4 Jan 1782, Paviours' Company. Samuel would be age 13.

Despite Sarah Cranfield being of Kempston on her marriage I think she was born in Cardington as there's a baptism of Sarah, daughter of Jonathan & Sarah Cranfield at Cardington on 26 Sept 1726 which ties in nicely agewise being age 19 at her marriage. Jonathan Cranfield was a farmer/yeoman of Harrowden & buried on 14/11/1736 aged 52. Beds Archives have his will ref 1736/8. His first wife Sarah was buried at Willington on 3 Jan 1729/30 the PR stating wife of Jonathan Cranfield "belonging to Cardington Parish".  Jonathan Cranfield, yeoman married Sarah Hancock at Kempston on 2 July 1724 by licence.

But this still doesn't tell us where John Woodham comes from & who were his parents.
Anyone found this yet?

[johnP-bedford]

......There was a John Woodham son of Thomas Woodham and Sarah Stoakes baptised at Riseley 12 June 1726 who would fit, just, but no way of knowing without further investigation.....
Tickle

Thomas Woodham married Sarah Stoakes of Riseley at Podington on 20 Jan 1725/26 by licence. This is the only Woodham name in the Podington PR transcript up to 1812. They baptised son John at Riseley on 12 Jun 1726, their only child there.

[linmey]

Good afternoon John,
Many thanks for all that information. I will go through it and see where it all fits in with my line. Hope it helps others in the thread.

Lots of familiar names there, just too many Johns to make life simple. 

Linda.

[johnP-bedford]

A Bedfordshire Historical Record Society publication, vol 68, 1989, “The Bedford Moravian Church in the Eighteenth Century” contains a reference to John Woodham.......

John Woodham, Church of England, husbandman. Born Sharnbrook in Bedfordshire
10 May 1716. Received/baptised 27 Oct 1744. First admitted to the Sacrament 9 Dec 1744. Office: Intercessor 3 June 1745. Marryd to Eliz. Payne 2 Feb 1744/5 (at Bedford St Paul per IGI). Became widower 30 Jan 1748/9 (Elizabeth Woodham age 26 buried at Bedford Moravian 1 Feb 1749 per NBI), Married again to Sus. Parker 1756 (10 Feb 1757 at Bedford St Paul per IGI) Excluded for bad behaviour 1757 (Pell’s wife had laid a charge against him). Departed. (his wife Susannah appears to have stayed in the Moravian community for there’s a Susannah Woodham age 79 buried at Bedford Moravian on 9 Feb 1792)

More info on the above from the Church of The United Brethren transcript available at Bedford Library....

Marriage 2 Feb 1745 at Bedford St.Pauls by licence
John Woodham, husbandman, bachelor of Bedford to Elizabeth, spinster, daughter of John & Anna Maria Pain of Thurleigh.
** Baptism at Thurleigh on 3 Apr 1722 of Elizabeth daughter of John Paine

Baptism 12 Feb 1747 Anna Maria daughter of John & Elizabeth Woodham of Bedford, born 5 Feb 1747

Baptism 25 Jan 1749 Elizabeth daughter of John & Elizabeth Woodham of Bedford St.Peters, born 9 Jan 1749 at 10am.

Burial 1 Feb 1749 Elizabeth Woodham age 26 wife of John Woodham, died 30 Jan 1749, buried at St.Peters
** Bedford St.Peters burial 1 Feb 1748/49 Elizabeth (methodist) wife of John Woodham
 
Burial 12 Feb 1749 Elizabeth Woodham age 1 month, daughter of John & Elizabeth Woodham of St.Peters, died 10 Feb 1749

Burial Anna Maria Woodham age 8 years 7 weeks, daughter of John & Elizabeth Woodham of Bedford, died 3 Apr 1755

Marriage no date but between 1754 - 1761, John Woodham, sieve-maker of Bedford to Susannah Parker, widow, daughter of Thomas & ? Mary Watts of Biddenham.
** The marriage was at Bedford St Pauls on 10 Feb 1757
** Biddenham baptism 6 Apr 1712 Susan, daughter of Thomas & Mary Watts

** Bedford St.Pauls burial on 11 May 1786 John Woodham from St.Pauls, Pauper

Burial 9 Feb 1792 Susannah Woodham age 79, widow died 6 Feb 1792 at Bedford

Just thought I'd post the info as it may be of interest to others, but who is this John Woodham born 10 May 1716 at Sharnbrook?