VIC Lookup BREWSTER Family

[Raylen]

Hi again Jon

Where is the information of Janes parents being Henry Gracie
and Margaret Fletcher from please?

There is a VERY detailed tree for Henry Gracie and
Margaret Fletcher online and they have a daughter Jane - only one
born 8/10/1851  Soho London
christened 18/1/1852 St Martin in the fields
died 23/1/1854 of measles Hobart Town Tasmania
Images of all these certificates have been added to the tree
as well as marriage and death certificates for Henry.
(Gee I wish this was a family I was tracing 
so much information )



Raylen

[~MERLIN~]

Yes, I can see the same hence my previous question 

BUT I can also see that there was only one son born 1853 in TAS to them before they moved to VIC where they had three more children 1857, 1859 & 1862 which leaves room for another child to be born but not registered as it appears they were around the gold fields at the time 

[~MERLIN~]

Births:

GRACIE THOMAS b. 17/10/1853 HOBART #246/1853 RGD 33
Father: HENRY
Mother: FLETCHER MARGARET

GRACIE Isabella b.1857 MARYBOROUGH #3824
Father: Henry
Mother: Margaret FLETCHER

GRACIE Jas Matthewson b. 1859 WHITE HILL #16400
Father: Hry
Mother: Margt FLETCHER

GRACIE Adeline b.1862 WHIT #3332
Father: Henry
Mother: Margaret FLETCHER
 
Death:

GRACIE JANE (female) age 2yrs d. 23/01/1854 HOBART 796/1854 RGD 35

[Raylen]

Hi Merlin,

Reading Henry's death certificate ( with tired eyes  )
I think the children read
Richard - dead
Simon - dead
Margaret- 52 years
Elizabeth - dead
Henry - dead
Mary Ann - 45 years
Jane - dead
Thomas - dead
Isabella - 38 years
James Matthewson - 36 years
Adeline - dead

Raylen

[~MERLIN~]

Went back to the drawing board with this one as it just didn't add up 

Anyone is welcome to correct me if I am barking up the wrong tree 

After much cross checking I have come to the conclusion that Jane GRACIE is NOT the daughter of Henry GRACIE & Margaret FLETCHER 

Instead she is the daughter of William GRACIE (free man) & Eve TATTERSALL (convict).

William & Eve also moved to Victoria where their daughters married. The parents died in the same suburb are buried in the the same cemetery as Jane & the suburb that Jane was living at the births of her children. All which seems to add up much nicer. It seems Jane's mothers name is incorrect on her death certificate.


Convict No. 75666
TATTERSALL Eve
Ship name St Vincent
Departure Port London
Departure date 19/12/1849
Arrival date 4/04/1850
Conduct record CON41/25
Indent CON15/6
Description List CON19/8


Request for Permission to Marry:

GRACIE William free - TATTERSALL Eve ex St Vincent 05 NOV 1850

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=5


Marriage:

GRACIE William age 30yrs m. TATTERSALL Eve age 23yrs 02/12/1850 CAMPBELL TOWN #30/1850 RGD 37


Childrens Births & Deaths: All at CAMPBELL TOWN & most the births have the mother's surname as TATTERSON.

GRACE WILLIAM HENRY b. 19/11/1851 #144/1851
GRACE JANE b. 31/10/1852 #129/1852
GRACE SARAH ANN b. 18/09/1855 #206/1855
GRACEY Male b. 16/07/1857 #175/1857 - d. 21/07/1857 #55/1857
GRACIE WILLIAM b. 31/01/1859 #124/1859 - d. 10/07/1859 #55/1859
GRACIE EDWARD b. 27/07/1860 #716/1860 - d. 17/08/1860  451/1860
GRACIE LYDIA b. 06/10/1861 #678/1861
GRACIE FREDERICK CHARLES b. 02/05/1865 #178/1865 - d. 03/09/1867 #56/1867


Deaths:

GRACIE Wm age 82yrs d. 1899 St K #3754
Father: Gracie Fred
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN


GRACIE Eva age 76yrs d. 1903 St K #3686
Father: Tattersill
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN


Burials:

ST KILDA GENERAL CEMETERY

Location Details CHURCH OF ENGLAND, MONUMENTAL, COMPARTMENT D GRAVE 0165

GRACIE WILLIAM age 82yrs
Date of Service 19/01/1899
Burial Type BURIED
Location Details CHURCH OF ENGLAND, MONUMENTAL, COMPARTMENT D GRAVE 0165


GRACIE Eve age 77yrs
Date of Service 17/03/1903
Burial Type BURIED

[SherlockBones]

WoW!!!! 
Merlin - I don't know what to say. Thanx just doensn't seem to cut it. I am gobsmacked by the about of work you have done. AND you were up until almost daybreak. Well done!!
The original information I was provided with came from a cousin who provided me with a gedcom file some time back. After looking at the online trees that Raylen mentioned,  it appears that Henry Gracie and Margaret Fletcher would be a different family but having said that there are other trees that feed into this family, completely discounting the fact that Jane died in Tas in 1854.

Merlin; you said you said you went back to the drawing board because things didn't add up. I agree that things weren't quite right, but where did you start? What did you look for? What was your thinking?

Thanx again   
Jon

[Raylen]

Congratulations on all that work MERLIN

I did start looking at that aspect but sleep called me 

I think you are spot on with William and Eve being the parents.

Jon, Some of those trees make me smile.
I saw Jane dying in 1854 and marrying in 1875 

Hope this has helped you along the way.  It's been fun

Raylen

[SherlockBones]

Hi Raylen

Been a bit of an eye opener this one. Originally thought there may have been two sisters with the one who married Brewster having Jane as her middle name and later adopting that name after her younger sister died. Merlin has done a LOT of work and should be proud of the effort.

Yes those online trees are to be taken lightly. I try to stay away from them where I can preferring to evidence things myself or thru experienced researchers. Whilst the best intentions are there in a lot of cases, there are also a lot of instances where someone's work is copied ad nausea, with any and all errors included. There is a lot to be said for doing things correctly and obtaining the right evidence. I think it is Cando who has as their tag "remember that everything is speculation until verified" Very true!!

I just envy the resources that some of the chatters have in being able to research to this level.

Jon

[SherlockBones]

Well I bit the bullet and purchased the cert for Jane Gracie's marriage to Brewster. Her parents were William Gracie and Eve Tatteson confirming all of Merlin's hard work....Not that it was ever doubted 

Thanx again. It is very much appreciated.

Jon