1901 census - Reformatory Philipstown - Tullamore?

[DudleyWinchurch]

In the 1901 census I have come across a Joseph Quirke, born Dublin City, who is a pupil in the catholic reformatory at Philipstown.

From a little reading, I think that this must be the later infamous Tullamore Reformatory in what is now Daingean in County Offaly.

Can anyone give me any pointers as to whether any records still exist to enable me to ascertain if this is the Joseph that I am looking for?

Are there papers still existing, for the school, that would include admittance information before 1901 or would I be needing to look for court documents for the case that caused him to be sent there?  And would those be still in existance?

[btc]

I have never heard it referred to as 'Tullamore Reformatory' just 'Daingean Reformatory' but perhaps you are correct.  Locally the terms 'Daingean' as in "..... been sent to Daingean..." or  ".... the Reformatory...." were enough to identify the place. I dont know where info is available but am sure it still exists.  If I can find I will update you.
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[SheenaPaden]

I was interested in the information you give on the 1901 census for Ireland.   I believe my grandfather was sent to a reformatory in Ireland (it may have been Gleencree).

Can you advise what information I need to input in their database to obtain records for pupils in reformatories or did you obtain the information you give from the National Archives in London?

[shanew147]

The 1901 and 1911 census is available online at : http://census.nationalarchives.ie/

Most people in reformatories are listed under just their initials.



Shane

[Dan1878]

Hi there everyone

Did you ever find out whether these records of inmates at reformatories actually exist or not? I would be interested in looking them up as well!

Thanks

Shane

[DudleyWinchurch]

Hi Shane,

I was able to verify that it was the Joseph that I was looking for from the Court record of his being sent to Philipstown in 1897 which is among the Irish Criminal Records collection recently published on FindMyPast.ie and in the new Worldwide Collection version of FindMyPast.com.

The Court records contain various details, often including current address and place of birth, a description of the defendant and sometimes the name and address of next of kin, as well as the sentence or fine and a brief description of the offence.