ALLEN; Emily Elizabeth Catherine and her family.

[Avance0306]

Hello,
I've ran into a brick wall of sorts and was hoping that someone might be able to help me break through it. There a TON of Allen's.

Emily Elizabeth Catherine Allen
Birth 20 May 1851 in Wye, Kent, England
Death 23 May 1901 in Greater London, Kent, London, United Kingdom
**1861, 1881, 1891 and 1901 census found - although I question the 1901 one.

Married Martin Lamoon
Birth 1831 in Tuam, Galway, Ireland
Death 26 May 1909 in Greater London, Kent, London, United Kingdom
**see also my posts for Ireland trying to find this person's family in Ireland.

Father:William Edward Allen
Birth abt 1829 in Deal, Kent, England
Death Unk
**1861 & 1871 census' found. Others have not been, yet.

Mother:Mary Ann (Surname unknown as I can't find anything proving)
Birth abt 1831 in Dover, Kent, England
Death Jan 1891 in Kent, England
**1861 & 1871 census' found. Others have not been, yet.

I'd like to find more information for the Allen's in my family - stalled out with this group..  among others..

Any and all help is appreciated!

Thank you,
Sara

[grandarog]

Hi Sarah  ,
                Have you discounted these two as possibles.

Marriages Sep 1847 Dartford 5 137 Allen William Edward - FRY Mary Ann.

                                              Good Luck Roger.    .

[Avance0306]

Roger,
Thank you for replying.

No, sir, I have not discounted that one.. mainly because I couldn't find it..  I've come to the conclusion that Allen was a very popular name in that area.. as was William and Edward.. 

I will take a closer look at what you've suggested and see if its a good fit.. I am crossing my fingers!

Thanks!
sara

[Avance0306]

Hi Sarah  ,
                Have you discounted these two as possibles.

Marriages Sep 1847 Dartford 5 137 Allen William Edward - FRY Mary Ann.

                                              Good Luck Roger.    .

By any chance, can you find him in 1881? I've not had any luck with what I have available to me..

I'd also like to find both of their parents (if indeed FRY is the maiden name of Mary Ann).

First - I have to prove that he was born in Kent.. and where in Kent.. then see if there's online records available.. That has proven to be more difficult of the bunch!

Sara

[casalguidi]

Firstly, what concerns me is that Elizabeth (wife of Martin LAMOON) says she was born Dover (not Wye) in the 1881/1891/1901 census.  Also, there is no mention of the names Emily Elizabeth Catherine on her marriage or the aforementioned census.  Where does she call herself Emily Elizabeth Catherine?

Casalguidi

[casalguidi]

This looks like your Elizabeth ALLEN (wife of Martin LAMOON) with a mother named Ann ...............

1871 - Military Rd, Hougham

Ann ALLEN head wid 53 dressmaker b.Dover
Bessie LAMOON dau mar 20 b.Dover
Harriett DAVIS dau 16 b.Dover
Annie ALLEN dau 12 b.Dover
William M LAMOON gson 10m b.Hougham

RG10/1012 folio 50 page 44
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1861 Bulwark Lane, Dover

William ALLEN head mar 71? coal porter b.Margate
Ann wife 42 b.Dover
William son 14 boot closer b.Dover
Elizabeth dau 10 b.Dover
Harriett dau 5 b.Dover
Ann dau 1 b.Dover
RG9/549 folio 82 page 35
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1851 Bulwark Lane, Dover

William ALLEN head mar 63 late coachman b.Margate
Ann wife 32 b.Dover
William son 4 b.Dover

HO107/1632 folio 636 page 40
...................

Casalguidi

[casalguidi]

William Elenton ALLEN baptised Dover St Mary 5 May 1847 (born 11 Apr) son of William Elenton ALLEN and Ann Maria http://www.familysearch.org

William Ellenton ALLEN married Dover district 1844 to Ann Maria WHITNALL http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

looks quite likely to be the correct family

Casalguidi

[Avance0306]

William Elenton ALLEN baptised Dover St Mary 5 May 1847 (born 11 Apr) son of William Elenton ALLEN and Ann Maria http://www.familysearch.org

William Ellenton ALLEN married Dover district 1844 to Ann Maria WHITNALL http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

looks quite likely to be the correct family

Casalguidi

Thank you for your help!

I am still trying to unravel the Allen's.
William Elenton? Wonder where that came from!?
I am going to have to go back and look closer.. something just isn't feeling right.

Thanks again for your help!

Sara

[casalguidi]

something just isn't feeling right.

Yes, I agree, it looks as if you have gone wrong with Elizabeth's parents.

Do you have a copy of her marriage certificate to Martin LAMOON which should give father's name and occupation/address/names of witnesses - all which may be a clue to her correct parents (it certainly looks like William Ellenton ALLEN is her father from what I can see).

Harriet Seiquin ALLEN marrys William James DAVIS 1871 Dover district.  Harriett Siequien ALLEN born Dover district 1856 would appear to be Elizabeth's sister http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

Casalguidi