1841 census look up Kirkheaton please

[sandra Bee]

sorry Sandra,
Just realised I didn't put my e mail.
can you send again so I can PM you.
Thanks

[sandra Bee]

Hi Sandra

Many thanks have received all now the 1861 and 1881. Did you by any chance look to see if he  John born 1806, was on the 1841 anywhere near his father ? It would establish if he was also living in the Brockholes area as well.  He  John born 1806 would have been 35 years in 1841
His first daughter Hannah being born 1831 should be on there as well unless they have rounded down.

Some thing else I have noticed on the 1841 John North  b 1772 aged 65.
with wife Mary. Are they living alone  or are they living with Richard North?
From the age of Richard North  could be his son. I can't work out the enumerators start and finish groups.

Sorry I am putting a lot on you here but picture forming now of John North 1772.
Sandra

[sandrastocks54]

Hi Sandra

John North, 1806, was living at Cuck Stool Kirkheaton in 1841.  Basically he was in the same place as he was in the 1851 census.  His occupation was given as Ag Lab.

Sandra

[sandra Bee]

Thanks Sandra,

I did wonder about that.  I have lots to chew over now, thanks again,
Sandra.

[sandra Bee]

Hi Sandra

The children I have now for John North b 1772 wife Mary Ann Denton are as follows.
John 1806, George 1807,(my gx grandfather). I had William b 1804 but the William on the census was born around 1818. I may have this wrong. Hannah born 1802, Sarah ch 24th May 1800 -died 1818 in Atkinson Mill Fire. Also there is a mention on the gravestone  of a Betsy who was born around 1846.  I do not have a Richard and the only Richard I can find with John as a father is a Richard ch 17th May 1789 St. Peter Huddersfield. The Richard on the census would have been b 1796.
There may be another Richard birth but yet to find .

John North b 1772 I believe is correct on this census especially as on the grave stone is the Name Mary Ann as his wife.Also son the gravestone is
Mary Ann an infant who died.

Sandra



It woul dbe nice if I could connect this Richard as a brother to John 1806.

[sandrastocks54]

There is a Richard North baptised at Kirkburton All Hallows 1795, address Highburton, father Joseph.  Richard's widow Charlotte was living at Brockholes in 1851, place of birth Almondbury.

Do you know where your other Norths were baptised?

[dobfarm]

Hello Sandra  Bee

I have spent the day in Wakefield archives

Though 'Find my past Says' (Need to pay for more info) Benjamin North was baptised 1670 Kirkheaton. The parish original register is in a right state of affairs with lots of entries unreadable! so it either a earlier transcription of the church register in the 19th century or earlier! or a BT entry at York Borthwick, (Will check it that out next time I'm in York.)

Benjamin North married Ruth Pollard 27th May 1697 Thornhill Parish

 John North born 4th Oct 1696 son Benjamin of Lacelles Hall Fenny Kirkheaton

( Grandson of  John North of Coldroid, Kirkheaton Parish died 30th OcT 1693 aged 70 Kirkheaton Graveyard)

John North X Mary Senyor married 3 rd Feb 1724 Kirkheaton|
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There is No Will of John North 1783 or John North 1843 in either Deeds Wills or Probate at York or any North Wills for Kirkheaton/Almondbury post 1750 to 1857 at Borthwick or
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Deeds Will 1743 RR- Vol 265 page 341
William North. Estate-People in the Will.
Mentioned it the Will Brothers- Benjamin (Fenny), Matthew (Lived Lockwood) , Paul North,
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Deed Wills only go back too (or started 1704 to be recorded in the deeds register) 1704 hence no Will for the old man John North sr - est;- Kirkheaton grave  age 70 in 1693 Born 1623 Thornhill reg bapt 1626 died 1693
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Deed Of Land-GG -Vol 337 page 472

Matthew North of Lockwood of land in the deed in Dalton at Dykeside (Couleroid)
Benjamin North of Fenny Almondbury Witness
All Part of The late John North estate ******************************************************************
All North's


Other Deeds/leases (Loads of them through the years post 1704  and 1565 lease boysefall hall- John North 1597 Will Cold royd
 Has Lands In Dalton Kirkheaton, Fenny ,Lockwood, Penistone, Kirkburton - Highburton, Whitley (Lane End), Colnebridge (Boyfe Hall)  South Crossland, Netherthong, West Ardsley-(Haigh Moor) Wood Church,
Owned By Matthew, Benjamin and Willaim all part of the late John North Estate


This is no more than a quick fair review summary guide of a random 1 afternoon (part day) search 13/06/2011 of Deeds & Wills!, this should be taken as so! (Nothing more) for Sandra Bee and anyone else should check the Deeds and Wills at Wakefield Archives service WYAS and the Borthwick Institute York uni ! Visit or contact these repositories for clarity! themselves

Note;- Not to be refered too for book publications (Rootschat copyright Rules admin)

Dobby

[dobfarm]

Administration No Will (Probate Failed no record!Nothing).


Reference:TEST.CP.1785/5
Repository:Borthwick Institute GB 193

John North

Executor James North Brother

Court:Exchequer
Case:Testamentary (validity of will)
Details:1 Pieces; No deposition; No libel; No sentence
Outcome:
Date: 1785

[sandra Bee]

Hi Dobby and Sandrastocks.


More than well pleased with the work you have done and thanks to you both.
Will add what you have found to my long line Norths and have at least
found out where John b 1772 and Mary Denton ended their days and filled a gap which I didn't know existed before.
Thanks to you both.
Sandra