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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 June 11 14:59 BST (UK) »
Now that one looks more like Dolbyland!
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #10 on: Monday 13 June 11 15:32 BST (UK) »
See if this helps translate it!.

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 June 11 15:37 BST (UK) »
Not sure it helps tbh!  :P
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 June 11 15:45 BST (UK) »
There appears to be a running thread......  Langholm ... Longholme ..... Dobbyland-holme.

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Midlothian: Adam(s), Meikle/Muckle
Leith: Bridges
Edinburgh: Brown
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Orkney: Brock
Ireland: Sweeney


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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #13 on: Monday 13 June 11 22:49 BST (UK) »
OK, thanks to gnu & fifer I'm convinced by the OPR primary source they highlighed that there is/was such a place in the Langholm area of Dumfriesshire with the name Over/Upper (Ober) Dolly (Dolby) Land.  It is still niggling at me is I can't find it in any other document or map.
I know that DGFHS have published a booklet of the OPR deaths for Langholm.  I was the actual volunteer researcher responsible for the editting and layout of that booklet and still have all my original notes on the placenames mentioned in text. There is just nothing listed that remotely looks like the placename in question.

Thanks emarbe for the very useful graphic.
My grateful thanks to ALL who took the time to have a look at this question.
Sy
Adam : Criggie : Davidson : Freeman : Jeamie : Lownie : Mackie : Pittendreigh : Ritchie
in Kinneff, Bervie, Benholm & St. Cyrus Parishes

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #14 on: Monday 13 June 11 23:02 BST (UK) »
I've been rattling this round my brain most of today and I'm fairly convinced this was a family farm that was split in two (or more)  There are loads of Dobbie's in and around Langholm I think could have been "Dobby's land" old spelling new name Dobbie.

Hope this helps!  ;)
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 13:26 BST (UK) »
From 1912 edition of "Langholm As It Was" page 889: Register of Baptisms of Staplegordon.

1677

Jan 21 The sd. day Mary Lyttle d. to John Lyttle in Long.  Wit. William fforsyths in Longholme and William Brown yr

Surely Oberdollyland = Staplegordon

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Langholm
Hounam ~ Dumfriesshire; Pettigrew, Scott ~ Hawick; Tweedie ~ Hawick and Moffat;

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 13:43 BST (UK) »
Maybe and maybe not.  The parish boundaries seem to have been reorganised around that time.

http://www.glendinning.name/history/staplegordon.pdf

However reading that article makes me suspect we should be looking further up into Eskdale for the Littles rather than close to Langholm/Arkinholm.
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Strange Placename -- OBERDOLLYLAND
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 14:03 BST (UK) »
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