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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #36 on: Friday 14 December 12 18:07 GMT (UK) »


 I knew that as " The Brewery Bar" inj the 1950/60s.

It was supposedly the last pub in Blyth to brew it's own beer !

The Star and Garter was about 100 yds turning right.

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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #37 on: Friday 14 December 12 18:31 GMT (UK) »
 Links to fotos of Blyth pubs.

http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/005420FS.htm
Star and Garter in middle, kings Head beyond, from the south

http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/005363FS.htm S & G tallestest building
 on left hand side street. From the north.

http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/005364FS.htm.. that "building at back of foto.  Shot from proximity of today's library
. Lookinwest towards Hedley Young department store building

 These last two , camera person had back to Brewery Bar.

http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/006264FS.htm
http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/005357FS.htm

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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 15 December 12 01:27 GMT (UK) »
The pub in the photo is definitely The Quay now, it was, as Michael says, the Brewery Bar and in between times it was The Pilot Cutter.

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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 16 December 12 17:47 GMT (UK) »
...it was The Boathouse prior to becoming The Quay ...wasn't it?

It was the Brewery Tap for the Blyth & Tyne Brewery Company, their Bonded Warehouse was behind it in Sussex Street, later taken over by Bell, Dunn & Keenleyside, Ships' Chandlers and now turned into flats.

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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #40 on: Monday 17 December 12 00:42 GMT (UK) »
Yes, it was the Boathouse too.

I have a list of Blyth pubs done by Blyth Town Boys Club in 1974 which says it changed from the Brewery Bar to the Pilot Cutter in 1967.  Presumably then the date for the change to the Boathouse was between 1974 and 1983.

I'm assuming you only gave up the football because the Boathouse changed it's name to the Quay   ;D

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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #41 on: Monday 17 December 12 10:46 GMT (UK) »
I didn't give up football .... it gave me up.   ::)
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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 18 December 12 11:27 GMT (UK) »
Links to fotos of Blyth pubs.

http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/005420FS.htm
Star and Garter in middle, kings Head beyond, from the south


This photo of the (Northumberland Street) Star & Garter is dated c.1900 compared to the picture of the (Brewery) Star & Garter which is dated c.1920. But the (Northumberland Street) building was the Star & Garter within Michael's living memory, so the (Brewery) pic must be much earlier than labelled. Or not the Star and Garter at all...

Here's a list of inns, taverns & public houses for "Blyth and neighbourhood" transcribed from the 1828/29 Pigot's Commercial Directory:

Bear (High Pans)
Black Bull (Blth - sic)
Coal Wagon (Foley)
Dun Cow (Blyth)
Half Moon (Blyth)
King's Arms (Cowpen Green)
King's Head (Blyth)
Lord Nelson (Blyth)
Nag's Head (Blyth)
Phoenix (Blyth)
Red Bull (Keelman's Row)
Seven Stars (North Blyth)
Ship (Blyth)
Ship (North Blyth)
Star & Garter (Blyth)
Turk's Head (Blyth)
Waterloo Hotel (Waterloo)

Back to the original post, and assuming that pubs tend to be located where the bulk of the population lived, it seems that even in 1828/29 Blyth rather than Cowpen was the label of choice, at least for Messrs Pigot. The accompanying text refers to "A considerable portion of the town of Blyth extends into the Township of Cowpen, in the parish of Horton. The population of the place must therefore be taken including its several suburbs which, in 1821, contained together 3,000 inhabitants."

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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 18 December 12 12:20 GMT (UK) »
The Start & Garter has only ever been the building on what is now called Bridge Street (till recently the Steamboat Inn) opposite the police station. Postcode for it is NE24 3AE.

I think in your picture post, that the mention of the Start & Garter Hotel is just an advertisement poster. Why it should be on another pub or brewery building in Blyth I do not know, but it is certainly not the S & G.

Here is an picture of the place not all that long after it was built. Note in the background that the BHC office building was not even built. That came along in 1912/13 for opening in 1913.

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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 18 December 12 13:09 GMT (UK) »
But if your c.1900 photo was taken shortly after the building opposite the police station was built, then there must have been an older Star & Garter somewhere else because the Pigot's Directory says that one Margaret Bower was the proprietress of the Star & Garter in Blyth in 1829...
MacKenzie, Coxon, Fordy, Scott, Robson, Chrisp, Patterson, Grey, Gray (Northumberland); Stevenson, Maltby, Doubleday, Carter (Notts); Macro, Seaman (Norfolk); Brindley (Gloucs); Bond (Essex).