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Re: No blue-bloods left?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 18:03 BST (UK) »
Funny this should come up today.... as I only recently spoke to a close cousin, who had been informed by his Mother... that we 'Sutherlands' own half of Scotland???!

Well there you go..  I knew it all along, but kept it secret ;D ;D ;)... (like I have about the tuth of our heritage.. I think he would freak if he knew that??!? :-X ::))

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that might be so - but we Mackenzie's are supposed to be descended from a Viking King lol   ;D
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Re: No blue-bloods left?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 18:12 BST (UK) »
F-i-l claims that they are descended from the Murray's of Blair Atholl (The Duke of Atholl is the only person in the United Kingdom allowed to have and maintain a private 'Army'). Family lore has it that F-i-l's branch of ancestors were exiled to the Outer Hebrides for "bad behaviour".

In slightly more recent times F-i-l's grandfather, Angus, was supposed to have been someone important in Tullibardine Distillery, and he, along with his brother, took the recipe to Ireland. This led to a rift between them and the rest of the family.
Angus and his brother, John, did indeed make the move to Ireland and they were both Brewer's and Distiller's.

Both the Blair Atholl and Tullibardine MURRAY clans can be traced back to Hugh Freskin, a Flemish noble man who was granted extensive lands in Moray and took the name "de Moravia".

They might be but I can't get past Donald MURRAY (son of John MURRAY & Ann MacLEOD) bp 1804 in Stornoway.
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Re: No blue-bloods left?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 18:15 BST (UK) »
I descend from a couple called Adam and Eve.  ;)
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Re: No blue-bloods left?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 18:16 BST (UK) »
Funny this should come up today.... as I only recently spoke to a close cousin, who had been informed by his Mother... that we 'Sutherlands' own half of Scotland???!

Well there you go..  I knew it all along, but kept it secret ;D ;D ;)... (like I have about the tuth of our heritage.. I think he would freak if he knew that??!? :-X ::))

xin
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that might be so - but we Mackenzie's are supposed to be descended from a Viking King lol   ;D

The Mackenzies have an older claim than that going back to a 5th century king named  Loarn mac Eirc. That would make you a very distant cousin of MacBeth.
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Re: No blue-bloods left?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 18:18 BST (UK) »
I descend from a couple called Adam and Eve.  ;)

I DO NOT Adam'n'Eve it!  :P
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Re: No blue-bloods left?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 18:21 BST (UK) »
Well I think I'm descended from King Louis ...................



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Now I'm the king of the swingers
Oh, the jungle VIP
I've reached the top and had to stop
And that's what botherin' me
I wanna be a man, mancub
And stroll right into town
And be just like the other men
I'm tired of monkeyin' around!

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Talk like you, too
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Re: No blue-bloods left?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 20:21 BST (UK) »
Funny this should come up today.... as I only recently spoke to a close cousin, who had been informed by his Mother... that we 'Sutherlands' own half of Scotland???!

Well there you go..  I knew it all along, but kept it secret ;D ;D ;)... (like I have about the tuth of our heritage.. I think he would freak if he knew that??!? :-X ::))

xin
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that might be so - but we Mackenzie's are supposed to be descended from a Viking King lol   ;D

The Mackenzies have an older claim than that going back to a 5th century king named  Loarn mac Eirc. That would make you a very distant cousin of MacBeth.
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I can't get back further than 1776 so I'm not anticipating I'll be making any blue blood claims  ;D

re the supposed Danish connection ... last year I decided to blow up a small old photo of my father in his late 30's and was totally taken aback by how like Prince Philip at the same age he looked.  It's probably the lighting as he always looked like himself with similar familial features as his brothers of course.
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Re: No blue-bloods left?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 20:35 BST (UK) »
Well, my Gtx3 grandfather's sister's husband's father's great nephew was a miner by the name of Middleton.

A few generations on and that makes me related to our Kate. 

I'm not sure what position in line the throne that makes me but it has to be close - doesn't it?

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Re: No blue-bloods left?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 20:49 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure what position in line the throne that makes me but it has to be close - doesn't it?



I bet someone on RC will have worked it out before the day's over  ;D
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