Richard Millington Perks

[jim1]

the interesting thing about Ancestry trees in how people sew them together like a patchwork quilt.
John & Eleanor didn't have a son called Richard in 1769,his name was George & he was born in B'ham,whereas Richard states he was born outside of the County.
Although it's says he was 70 ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 in 1841 so he could have been 74.
MargP's info looks the most interesting at present.

jim

[Phodgetts]

Yes, the stitching together of trees. My own experience has been when connecting with other people's trees, I have come across some which for whatever reason have been copies on mine 'warts and all'. Obviously I have been ironing out my research and trying as I am now to find out the true facts, but the other trees which are copies of mine are not being updated, so they are riddled with errors that are not being corrected. So I am dubious just to take it at face value. However I have found (just minutes ago) one tree with images posted of parish info at Bearley associated with the Perks, so perhaps someone else is closer to the mark. I think this is going to take a while. I am very grateful for all your help 

Philip

[jim1]

The only lead you have is the relationship with John Perks B.1814 B'ham.
There are a couple of candidates born B'ham around this time,however in order to find his father you would have to get his marriage cert.John Perks=Lucy Tilsley/Mar.1838/Solihull/16/405 & then try & establish a connection from there.
jim

[MargP]

Hi Philip

I think Jim is right the only way forward is to get the marriage for John and Lucy, I have found a marriage for a Benjamin Millington Perks married 12 Aug 1828 Saint Martins Birmingham to Martha World no parents names given.

Jim

I see that you have the name Coley in your tree are they from the Netherton area of Dudley my grandmother was Ellen Coley.

Marg

[jim1]

The 1828 Marriage doesn't list any Perks witnesses,they being John & Diana Bough.
Marg
I'm aware of the Dudley Coleys but no relation as far as I can tell,mine are from King's Norton.
Edit:
I think we may be getting somewhere,there's a John Perks b.1813 B'ham,parents Thomas & Jemima,they had a large number of children most being christened in a batch in Oct.1830,one of them being a Thomas Millington Perks b.1816.
So we now have a Richard,Benjamin & Thomas all with middle name Millington (+ Henry in Salop) & Richard living with the brother (John) of Thomas M Perks.

jim

[jim1]

I think this is what we have so far:
Richard m Ann Snape 1790
Children:
Thomas b.1790
Ann b.1792
Henry b.1795
(There may be others I haven't found yet)
others:
Samuel b.1797
Richard b.1799
Dinah b.1800
John b.1802
Sarah b.1806
Josiah b.1808
Benjamin(Millington) b.1809
Jemima b.1812/d.1816


Thomas m Jemima Hirons 1812
Children:
John b.1813
Thomas Millington b.1816
Jemima b.1818
Matthew b.1820
Mark b.1821
Kezia b.1823
Karenapuck b.1826
Rachel b.1827
Naomi b.1829
John m Lucy Tilsley 1838
1841 Richard is living with John who would be his Grandson.

jim

[MargP]

This puts a new light on things, so you think John's parent's may be Thomas and Jemima and not Richard and Ann, the only way we will find out is if Philip sends for the marriage record.

Marg

[jim1]

There is no John born to Richard & Ann b.c. 1813 that I can find but you are correct that the marriage cert. will confirm the father.
It's the Perks/Millington link that I can't find.
Edit:found these children to Richard & Ann:
Samuel b.1797
Richard b.1799
Dinah b.1800
John b.1802
Sarah b.1806
Benjamin b.1809
Jemima b.1812


jim

[jim1]

The 1828 Marriage doesn't list any Perks witnesses,they being John & Diana Bough.

I take it back Diana (Dinah) Bough witness at Benjamin Millington Perks marriage was also witness at Sarah Perks marriage along with husband John,
Dinah,Benjamin & Sarah were siblings & children of Richard & Ann.
Marriage:
Dinah Perkes=John Bough/June 30/1823/Harborne.

jim