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Boer War Records?
« on: Saturday 18 June 11 17:26 BST (UK) »
Hello  :)

I was at my local history society in Hindley near Wigan this morning, they have a museum exhibition up at the moment and I discovered a Boer War plaque put up to commemorate the soldiers who returned from fighting unscathed.

I believe I may have found the name of my Great Great Grandfather on there.  But I am unsure as to what is out there regarding Boer War records (if indeed there are any at all...)

His name is listed as W Dwyer (Corp) G8079 and the plaque belongs to the Loyal Northern Lancashire Regiment, 2nd Volunteer Batallion.

Is there anything that can be done with this info at all - any people I can contact or organisations that can help or websites?

Here's hoping!

Best wishes and thank you for reading
cavey
Dwyer - Rathangan Ireland
Loughran - Armagh
Gillespie -  Armagh
Rigby - Wigan
Finch - Preston
Crompton - Aspull, Farnworth
Gerrard - Wigan, Bolton, Westhoughton
Grime - Blackburn, Bolton, Hindley Green

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Re: Boer War Records?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 June 11 17:45 BST (UK) »
Have you tried the Regimental Museum?

http://www.qlrmuseum.co.uk/Loyals.htm

There's some information on Research.
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 June 11 17:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for the speedy reply - I hadn't seen this website before, am going to have a good look at it, looks to be interesting...

Thank you :)
Dwyer - Rathangan Ireland
Loughran - Armagh
Gillespie -  Armagh
Rigby - Wigan
Finch - Preston
Crompton - Aspull, Farnworth
Gerrard - Wigan, Bolton, Westhoughton
Grime - Blackburn, Bolton, Hindley Green

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Re: Boer War Records?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 June 11 17:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Cavey,

There are a number of Dwyers listed here, one William; maybe not yours. Have a good look around the whole website, there is a huge amount of stuff there.

http://www.angloboerwar.com/component/acesearch/search?query=dwyer

Paul
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 June 11 18:14 BST (UK) »
The 2nd VB of the LNLR did not go to South Africa as a unit. Its members volunteered for service with other units. I cannot find him on the LNLR medal roll so he probably served with another regiment. G8079 may be his company and number for the 2nd VB, so he would have been given a different number for South Africa.

The easiest thing to do is to look on Findmypast as they may have created a new set of papers for him. If you do not have access to FindMyPast you should post details of his place of birth, age etc so others can confirm they have the right man.

Can you post details (or a photograph) of the plaque so we can see the other men listed. You can also look in the local newspapers as I am sure details of men volunteering would have been included.

Ken

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 June 11 18:22 BST (UK) »
The 2nd VB of the LNLR did not go to South Africa as a unit. Its members volunteered for service with other units. I cannot find him on the LNLR medal roll so he probably served with another regiment. G8079 may be his company and number for the 2nd VB, so he would have been given a different number for South Africa.

The easiest thing to do is to look on Findmypast as they may have created a new set of papers for him. If you do not have access to FindMyPast you should post details of his place of birth, age etc so others can confirm they have the right man.

Can you post details (or a photograph) of the plaque so we can see the other men listed. You can also look in the local newspapers as I am sure details of men volunteering would have been included.

Ken

Paul, thank you for the link, I've bookmarked it to go through :)

Ken. On FindMyPast I put in his name and the G8079 number and it just gave me a ref to WO127 at the National Archives, nothing else.  I do have a photo of the plaque - I shall try and scan it in, but it might get tomorrow before I can have access to a scanner. The local newspapers is a good idea (hadn't thought of that...d'oh!). But I will do a scan!

His details were as per my first post. William Dwyer G8079 Corp. He was born in Kildare, Ireland in 1860ish and lived at the time of this conflict either at 5 Hemfield Street, Ince, Wigan or 10 Hall Street, Ince Wigan.

Thank you all for your time and help thus far.
Dwyer - Rathangan Ireland
Loughran - Armagh
Gillespie -  Armagh
Rigby - Wigan
Finch - Preston
Crompton - Aspull, Farnworth
Gerrard - Wigan, Bolton, Westhoughton
Grime - Blackburn, Bolton, Hindley Green

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 June 11 19:48 BST (UK) »
WO127 are the records for local mounted troops raised in South Africa. Lots of men made their own way there and enlisted. The pay was four times that of an infantry Private.

This site is slowly indexing the records - http://www.britishmedals.us/kevin/wo127.html - so far the only Dwyer included seems to be a Peter Dwyer in the Imperial Bearer Corps.

I think the local newspaper may be your best bet if there is nothing on FindMyPast.

Ken

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 June 11 22:40 BST (UK) »
Have you seen this?

"2690    Private    Dwyer    W    1st Bn."

here

http://www.britishmedals.us/files/lnlr.htm

note that lnlr = Loyal North Lancashire Regiment

Paul
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 June 11 08:47 BST (UK) »
I spotted 2690 in the medal rolls, but discounted him because that number would have been issued in the 1880s. The highest number on the roll (apart from one obvious mistake) is 7625. Which is why I believe that 8079 is his 2nd VB number.

Maybe he is the same man who was discharged, then later returned via the 2nd VB.

Ken