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ALICE HANNAH HOLMES born 1866 Ramsey
« on: Saturday 25 June 11 20:12 BST (UK) »
I'm researching an Alice Hannah Holmes who was born in Ramsey in 1866 and whose father was called George and was at one period during the mid-nineteenth century licensee of a Ramsey hotel. Alice was married in Liverpool in 1888 and George may also have been living there then. Any information regarding George or any other family members would be appreciated.
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Re: ALICE HANNAH HOLMES born 1866 Ramsey
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 June 11 10:05 BST (UK) »
the hotel 1881/2 Holmes, George, Royal Hotel, 10 Market-place (or 10 St Pauls Sq)
the hotel is visible (a small 2 windowed upper storey) on www.manxnotebook.com/cd_only/142views/ry_mkt.htm - - might have a better photo somewhere but Manxmuseum will probably have some (library@mnh.gov.im)

the outline tree Bal = ballaugh 17860228 = 28 feb 1786
Thomas illeg c/o Robert Roberts + Ann Grimshaw but they legitimised by mar Ballaugh 17860228 - next 2 ch were in douglas
Robert was noted as rr mariner hm navy - ann was prob dau of John Grimshaw + margt cannell who were tenants on Bishop's demense - bapt Bal 17590224
Thomas Roberts(bapt Bal 17851028) (bur Bal 18570518 age 72)tailor Ballacurnkiel  farm 7ac(ie a smallholding) in 1851 = Ann Boyde [m Jurby 18080102]
one of several children was
John (Bal 18180709) = Elizth Simpson(co down ireland) [m  Bal 18401010] (tailor Ballacry 1851) -> Elizth Roberts  who married english born George
The grimshaw, cannell + boyd[boddagh] lines can be traced further back - re Ballaugh see www.manxnotebook.com - and my summaries of 99% of Ballaugh 18th C wills

according to Constance radcliffe "Shining by  the Sea - history of Ramsey" - George Holmes bought hotel in 1873 and ran it for over 20yrs  with dau Elizabeth - only the children post 1875 are noted as born on IoM
Elizth Holmes bur Bal 18850515 (address Royal Hotel Ramsey) age 39;george Holmes bur Bal 18940209 age 58 (address Ramsey) - in 1894 Elizth Holmes shown running the Royal - guess the dau. as per constance radcliffe

there are two MI's to earlier generations in Ballaugh old yard #s RR8 + RR9 - there might be a MI to George bt possibly in another yard  - try asking
on http://www.isle-of-man.com/genealogy/messageboard/index.pl as a regular poster has complete set of MI's

In loving memory of ELIZABETH wife of JOHN ROBERTS of Ballavolley, Ballaugh
died Nov 6th 1878 aged 62 years
Her end was peace
Also the above named JOHN ROBERTS died July 6th 1893 aged 75 years
Also ROBERT son of the above died April 20th 1949 aged 89 years

and

In loving memory of ANN, widow of JOHN ROBERTS of Ballavolley died Dec 14th
1898 aged 94 years
Also JOHN CORLETT ROBERTS died March 19 1884 aged 18 years
any thing with a Manx Connection

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Re: ALICE HANNAH HOLMES born 1866 Ramsey
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 June 11 22:28 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Some fascinating information! Thank you very much.

Doug ( "Pirhana")
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