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Re: Lookup request for John Turner, Pontesbury Shrops. 1861
« Reply #18 on: Friday 19 December 14 23:57 GMT (UK) »
Hello Salopian,

Do you have the full marriage certificate for John Turner and Elizabeth Blaney ?
If you do, can you post the details, I cannot find this marriage. Could be other researchers looking in the future.
Not 100 %, but I think the Blaney family have an old pedigree for the Welshpool area.

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Re: Lookup request for John Turner, Pontesbury Shrops. 1861
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 20 December 14 00:18 GMT (UK) »
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Lookup request for John Turner, Pontesbury Shrops. 1861
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 20 December 14 00:23 GMT (UK) »
I thought the Blaney's were important.

http://wbo.llgc.org.uk/en/s-BLAY-NEY-1400.html


BLAYNEY family, of Gregynog, Mont. The family claimed descent from Brochwel Ysgythrog . The first member of the family about whom there is definite information is EVAN BLAYNEY , whose name appears eighteenth in the roll of burgesses found in the charter of Welshpool , 7 June, 7 Henry IV (1406) , where he is described as ‘of Tregynon .’
His son, GRIFFITH AP EVAN BLAYNEY , is mentioned by the poet Lewis Glyn Cothi . The Gregynog line of the family was continued by Griffith 's son EVAN LLOYD ap GRIFFITH and by his grandson THOMAS AP EVAN LLOYD whose son, DAVID LLOYD BLAYNEY , was sheriff of Montgomeryshire in 1577 and 1585 .

David Lloyd Blayney 's wife was Elizabeth , daughter of Lewis Jones of Bishop's Castle , and their eldest son, LEWIS BLAYNEY , was deputy-sheriff to his father in 1577 and 1585 .

Lewis Blayney m. Bridget , daughter of John Price of Newtown , and their son, JOHN BLAYNEY , was entered a barrister of the Inner Temple in 1609 and was sheriff in 1630 and 1643 . In 8 Charles I he was chief steward of the lordships of Kerry , Cydewain , Halcetor , and Montgomery . In 1666 he was one of those deemed qualified to be made Knights of the Royal Oak , an order intended by Charles II as a reward to his followers. He m. Elizabeth , daughter of Jenkin Lloyd of Berth-lwyd , Llanidloes .

Their daughter and heiress, JOYCE , m. her second cousin, Sir Arthur Blayney , who belonged to the Irish branch of the family. His father was the 1st lord Blayney who, in turn, was the third son of David Lloyd Blayney ( sheriff 1577 , v. supra ).

EDWARD , the 1st LORD BLAYNEY , was a soldier from his youth, and in 1598 he accompanied the earl of Essex to Ireland . He distinguished himself in the fighting in Ireland , and in 1603 he was knighted and, in 1621 , elevated to the peerage of Ireland as lord Blayney , baron of Monaghan , co. Monaghan .

His second son, ARTHUR (the husband of Joyce Blayney ), was knighted for bravery in the battle of Beaumaris . He was sheriff of Montgomeryshire in 1644 . During the Civil War he assisted Sir William Owen of Brogyntyn in the defence of Harlech Castle for the king , and was one of the Commissioners appointed by him to sign the articles of surrender in March 1647 . He d. in 1659 .

Arthur 's third son, HENRY , was the father of JOHN BLAYNEY , who was sheriff in 1716 . John Blayney m. Anne , daughter of Arthur Weaver of Morville , Salop , the sheriff of Montgomeryshire in 1667 . Their youngest son and eventual heir, Arthur Blayney ( v. infra ), was the last of the Blayneys of Gregynog , though the Irish line — the Blayneys of Blayney Castle — continued for some years.

The Blayney estates in Montgomeryshire and Salop passed to the Hon. Henry Tracy , who became the 8th viscount Tracy and whose wife was Susanna Weaver , a second cousin of Arthur Blayney [see note at end of article ‘ Hanbury , John ’ ].



BLAYNEY , ARTHUR ( 1716 - 1795 ), the last of the Blayneys of Gregynog . Born 11 Feb. 1716 , was the youngest of the eight children of John Blayney and Anne Weaver his wife. As a result of the death of his elder brother he succeeded to the family estates. In 1764 he served the office of sheriff . He was noteworthy as a fine example of a country gentleman . He was a good landlord and concerned himself with the welfare of his tenants, often assisting them by buying their produce. He gave land for the building of good roads , and encouraged the planting of trees . He d. 1 Oct. 1795 and was buried at Tregynon on 6 Oct .
Bibliography:

Collections Historical and Archaeological relating to Montgomeryshire , xviii, 229, xxi, 273, xxii, 71, xxv, 105;
R. Williams , Montgomeryshire Worthies , second ed., 1894 ;
National Library of Wales Manuscript 9252.
Author:

Elwyn Evans, M.A., Aberystwyth
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Lookup request for John Turner, Pontesbury Shrops. 1861
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 20 December 14 02:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Alberbury,
I have the marriage certificate of John and Elizabeth Turner...they were married by registry office. Nov 1861. Her father was David Blaney. She was born in Guildsfield, Montgomery. Christened July 1833. I cant see how to attach the Certificate on here.
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Andrea  :)
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Re: Lookup request for John Turner, Pontesbury Shrops. 1861
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 20 December 14 09:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Salopian,

The marriage certificate does not have to be an attachment, just a typed transcript. I see it as helping another researcher. As the certificates get costly. It took me ages to do my avatar.

Elizabeth Blayney
Wales Births and Baptisms, 1541-1907
christening:   21 July 1833   GUILSFIELD,MONTGOMERY,WALES
father:   David Blayney
mother:   Elizabeth

Is this the correct baptism ?

The Blaney research will be interesting. Good information from a Google search.

Alberbury.
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Lookup request for John Turner, Pontesbury Shrops. 1861
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 20 December 14 09:17 GMT (UK) »
http://www.keithblayney.com/Blayney/Shropshire.html

Very good research. This should help you.
Click the link, I think your David Blaney of Guilsfield, is at the bottom of page.
Top of the page Blaney history opens Blaney Pedigrees.

Enjoy.
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Lookup request for John Turner, Pontesbury Shrops. 1861
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 20 December 14 18:10 GMT (UK) »
Had a look at Shropshire Archives today.

Westbury burials

174.  Elizabeth Turner    of  Halfway House  feb 27th   aged 64
                                                                1852

302.  John Turner          of  Halfway House  July 17th          35
                                                                1856

390.  John Turner          of  Halfway House   March 2nd       77
                                                                 1859

520. John Turner         of  Cause mountain  March 6th         81
                                                                1865


They have no Monumental Inscriptions for Westbury

                                                           
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Lookup request for John Turner, Pontesbury Shrops. 1861
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 20 December 14 18:49 GMT (UK) »
I could not see John son of Thomas Turner the bricklayer. I have given you some more Turner's hopefully they can be linked to your family.

1841 C     Westbury     

Halfway House

John Turner        55       Publican   Y   born in the County
Elizabeth Turner      50                 Y
John Turner        20                      Y
Susanna Turner       15                  Y
Martha Turner         15                  Y
William Turner     14                      Y
Harriet Turner          10                 Y
John Hughes        25       m.s.       no
John Rowland      55       ag ser     no
John Davies         25       m.s.        no
Elizabeth Tibbot       15  f.s.          no
Thomas Pursell     15       m.s.       Y

Westbury Baptisms

                  1819       Mary        John          Turner      of  March     Innkeeper     
                  Apr                           +
                  25                         Elizabeth
                no. 539

                  1819     William      William       Turner          Wallop     Labourer
                 June                            +
                   6                           Mary
                no. 542


                 1820          John        John         Turner          March      Publican
                August         son           +
                 27th            of         Elizabeth
                no. 639

                 1820           John     Elizabeth      Turner       Westbury    Single
               September      son                                                           woman
                 17                of
               no. 641

                1823            Susan      John          Turner        March        Innkeeper
                Jan 11          d of           +                                 +
               no. 842                      Elizabeth                       Wigmore

 
                 1825          Martha      John          Turner        Marsh        Innkeeper
                feb 20th                       +
                no. 1041                   Elizabeth

                 1827        Thomas      Sarah          Turner       Westbury    Single
                Sep 11                                                                           woman
               no. 1235

                 1827         William      John            Turner       Marsh        Innkeeper
                nov 22                          +
               no. 1245                    Elizabeth

Private      1831          Hariette    Elizabeth        Turner     Halfway        Publican
fully         apr 22         daughter      +                              House
on the      no. 1512       of            John
20th May
1832



Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Lookup request for John Turner, Pontesbury Shrops. 1861
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 20 December 14 18:56 GMT (UK) »
Cardeston

no. 16  bp. feb       John   Thomas    Turner      of Yockleton       Labourer
                 20                    +                                 in
                  1814             Hannah                         Westbury



Alberbury   No. 383

Thomas Turner  of this Parish
               and  Hannah Jones of this
Parish

Married in the Church by Banns

6th May  1806
                          The mark  X  Thomas Turner
                           The mark  X  Hannah Jones

In the Presence of     __ Butterton      signed
                              Richard Turner    signed

Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock