Author Topic: John Ranson - census look up  (Read 4487 times)

Offline judyjay

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 206
    • View Profile
John Ranson - census look up
« on: Thursday 30 June 11 18:29 BST (UK) »
I have found John Ranson [born 1842] his wife Elizabeth and their children on the 1880 census in Toronto. I also have their marriage in 1871.
Is anyone able to look at 1870 and the other censuses for me for this family. I am particularily interested in when John came to Canada. He only appears on the 1851 and 1861 English censuses.
Thank you
Suffolk: Rowe, Scarfe, Brookes, Rands, Hart, Fuller, Buckle
Cornwall: Lobb, Palmer, Mutton, Burden, Veal
Devon: Haddy, Hayman, Burgoyne, Pinhey, Bond, Dayman, May
Ireland: Sheeran, Noone, Murray, Daly, Rooney, O'Frill, Friel, Rigney.
Australia. NSW: Benjamin Rowe

Offline valeriec

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,808
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John Ranson - census look up
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 June 11 20:20 BST (UK) »
Free sites to view
You can view the family in the 1881 and 1891 Census at
www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/index-e.html

You can view the orginal documents through the split screen/view option using pdf or jpeg.

1881 Ontario/Toronto/St James Ward
John age 39
Elizabeth age 30
John age 9
William age 4
Nellie age 9 months

Same family with different ages for parents in 1891 at Ontario/Toronto/St Andrews Ward

You can look for the family in the 1901 and 1911 census at
http://automatedgenealogy.com

Offline judyjay

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 206
    • View Profile
Re: John Ranson - census look up
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 June 11 21:47 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your message. I had looked at 1901 but hadn't found him. I didn't know the 1891 was online so am very pleased to know that. I shall have to update some of my other research now.
Regards
Judy
Suffolk: Rowe, Scarfe, Brookes, Rands, Hart, Fuller, Buckle
Cornwall: Lobb, Palmer, Mutton, Burden, Veal
Devon: Haddy, Hayman, Burgoyne, Pinhey, Bond, Dayman, May
Ireland: Sheeran, Noone, Murray, Daly, Rooney, O'Frill, Friel, Rigney.
Australia. NSW: Benjamin Rowe

Offline valeriec

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,808
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John Ranson - census look up
« Reply #3 on: Friday 01 July 11 00:50 BST (UK) »
http://automatedgenealogy.com
has son John, wife and children still in Toronto


Offline judyjay

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 206
    • View Profile
Re: John Ranson - census look up
« Reply #4 on: Friday 01 July 11 11:09 BST (UK) »
Weel, I'm completely flummoxed. I found them easily on the 1891 but have had no luck with 1901 or 1911 whatever spelling of their surname I use.  May have to admit defeat on this but thank you for all your help.
By the way does anyone know what an Assembly Christian is? It is given as their religion.
Suffolk: Rowe, Scarfe, Brookes, Rands, Hart, Fuller, Buckle
Cornwall: Lobb, Palmer, Mutton, Burden, Veal
Devon: Haddy, Hayman, Burgoyne, Pinhey, Bond, Dayman, May
Ireland: Sheeran, Noone, Murray, Daly, Rooney, O'Frill, Friel, Rigney.
Australia. NSW: Benjamin Rowe

Offline valeriec

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,808
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John Ranson - census look up
« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 July 11 13:01 BST (UK) »
http://automatedgenealogy.com

Couldn't find the parents John and Elizabeth or daughter Nellie so it is possible that the parents are deceased and the daughter married by 1901

1901 Toronto East, Ward No 2
Household 67 lines 24-27
Ranson, John; head, June 11, 1872, age 28, methodist, occupation - scale maker
Lily, wife, Nov 22, 1877, age 23
William J., son, August 12, 1898, age 2
Lily J, daughter, Sept 6, 1900

Lily is transcribed as Lily J but the actual document looks like Lily I. In 1911 the daughter born in 1900 is Irene so could be the same person.

I found a possible for William
1901 Ontario/Simcoe East/ Midland
Household 96, line 41
in the household of Earnest Lanton
Ranson, William, male, lodger, single, b. June 21, 1873, Ontario, age 27, methodist, occupation - lab

Offline valeriec

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,808
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John Ranson - census look up
« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 July 11 13:06 BST (UK) »
Do you know the names of the parents of John and Elizabeth as that can help in searching for information?

It appears the religion is Methodist.

1911 Census of Canada
Ontario/Toronto East/48 Toronto/page 10
household 100, lines 23-28
Ranson, John, male, head, married, Jan. 1875, age 36
Lilly, female, wife, Oct 1878, age 32
William, male, son, single, Sept 1898, age 12
Irene, daughter, Sept 1900, age 10
Ruth, daughter, Sept 1902, age 8
Reta, daughter, Sept 1906, age 4

Dont'get too wrapped up in the different years of birth as that was not unusual at the time. People weren't very concerned about the age given as changed it to suit their needs.

Offline valeriec

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,808
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John Ranson - census look up
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 July 11 13:25 BST (UK) »
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#start

birth
William Ranson
24 May 1877
Toronto, York, Ontario
Mother: Elizabeth Griffeth
Father: John Ranson

birth
Nellie Ranson
30 June 1880
Toronto, York, Ontario
Mother: Elizabeth Griffith
Father: John Ranson

Someone with more knowledge of Ontario research may be able to find more info regarding marriage/deaths for William and Nellie

Offline cntrygrl

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 73
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John Ranson - census look up
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 July 11 14:46 BST (UK) »
www.automatedgenealogy.com
A possibility?   1911 in Toronto West, - William, Elizabeth (widowed) and sister Eleanor are transcribed as "Renson".  I thought it odd that they were Irish, but then I think I found  Elizabeth's death in 1930.

Elizabeth Ranson b. 28 Feb 1848 Woodburn, Ontario died 2 May 1930 North York.  States she is a widow, Irish, housewife, address 97 McDougall Ave, North York.  father Thomas Griffith b Ireland.  gives no mother's name, but b. England.  Informant is Albert John Jacobs, son-in-law, same address, burial is in Aurora.

oops maybe not   :(    the 1871 marriage has James as her father.
Canada census copyright Library and Archives Canada