JOHN SPENCER SAWYER OR SYERS

[soya91]

John Spencer Sawyer was born c1787 in England. Between 1814 and 1816 he was employed in Pendleton, Salford probably at the William Douglas Mill. From 1820 to his death in 1851 he was employed at the William Douglas Mill in Annan Dumfires. Census returns and vital records do not note a specific place of birth in England.  If anyone has come across a Sawyer(or derivatives)  Spencer marriages circa 1750 -1785 or a John Specer as opposed to a John Sawyer birth c1787 I would be delighted to hear from you.

[madpants]

I take it you have his marriage in

Annan Dumfries 5th April 1820
John Spence Sawyer
Maria James

[soya91]

Many thanks for your post. Yes.. We have the Annan marriage and a fairly thorough sequence of events since for him and most of his children. 2 daughters were born to Maria James, his future wife, in 1814 and 1816 (St Thomas's Pendleton,Salford) which evidences a Lancashire connection. At the commencement of of a time of massive population growth in the Manchester area most probably a majority of inhabitants were first generation Mancunians. He was educated, or became educated which suggests he could have been taken on by Douglas in a clerical roll. This would lessen the likelyhood of him being a Parish apprentice that William Douglas was well known for using.