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Swedish Woman Elsa Johansson
« on: Tuesday 19 July 11 17:41 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find out what happened to a Swedish woman who arrived at Prestwick on the night 9/10th October 1944. Her name was Elsa Nanna Johansson and she was born on 27 November 1906 in Karlshamn. Her employer and fiance Alfred Frederick Rickman was born on 17 January 1902 in Wimbledon and arrived in UK in 15 March 1944. He was waiting for her and they were supposed to get married. Both had been involved in work for SOE in Sweden.
At least Rickman was living at 511 Beatty House, Dolphin Square London S.W.1 in february 1945. Probably Rickman died in 1985 in Kent.

Does anyone know if they married and where they lived after that?
Further, what occupation did they have after their arrival in Britain??
Any information is of great value

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Re: Swedish Woman Elsa Johansson
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 17:55 BST (UK) »
Hello and welcome to RootsChat

This looks like the marriage registration
Alfred F Rickman
Elsa N Johansson
Mar qtr 1957
Westminster
5c 921

marriage cert should give address and occupation

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Re: Swedish Woman Elsa Johansson
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 18:00 BST (UK) »
Elsa's death reg - her middle name has beeen transcribed as "Hanna" on image it looks more like "Nanna"

Elsa Hanna(Nanna?) Rickman
born27 Nov 1906
Death reg Dec 1972
age 66
Marylebone
5d 2226

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Swedish Woman Elsa Johansson
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 18:03 BST (UK) »
Thankyou very much.
At last a trace.
But they obviously waited 12 years before getting married.

How could I get a copy of the marriage certificate?
I suppose I am not allowed to ask about any children here.

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Re: Swedish Woman Elsa Johansson
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 18:15 BST (UK) »
I can't find any children -but Elsa would be 51 by the time they married??


Possibly Alfred remarried after Elsa's death

Marriage reg
Alfred F Rickman
Raymonde M Hillery
Dec qtr 1976
hampstead
12 1313

You can purchase certificates online from GRO-will post a link in a mo

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Swedish Woman Elsa Johansson
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 18:22 BST (UK) »
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Each certificate costs £9.75

Do you have Afred's full death reg??
If you want it I have it

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Swedish Woman Elsa Johansson
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 18:31 BST (UK) »
Thankyou, thankyou Suzard.
This is a lot more than I expected.
Yes, I am of course interested in the death certificate.

Alfred Rickman became famous in Sweden, his bungling bunch of saboteurs are called "the Rickman gang". We are writing a book about it, probably it will be a part in a book about SOE in Sweden.
But he got a very very hard prison sentence from a pro-German judges, eight years in prison and he didn't even get a chance to try to blow up cranes in a harbour exporting iron ore to Germany, only planning it. A disgrace for us.

Yes I realise Elsa was 51. But why did they wait 12 years???
Perhaps I will get an answer from a file at National Archives, which they kindly declassified for us.

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Re: Swedish Woman Elsa Johansson
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 18:39 BST (UK) »
Death registration
Alfred frederick Rickman
Born 17 Jan 1902
Death reg nov 1985
age 83
Tunbriddge Wells
kent
16 2155

It looks like he was born Leytonstone Essex -not Wimbledon??

Will be back in a mo when I have checked

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Swedish Woman Elsa Johansson
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 18:45 BST (UK) »
This is Alfred before he was locked up.
The other photo show all the high explosives they stored in a cellar in the middle oc central Stockholm.
Unfortunately we have no phpto of Elsa yet, but we are working on it.

Images resized as they were distorting thread.
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