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1861 liverpool census lookup please
« on: Monday 02 May 05 16:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Can someone lookup the following for me on the 1861 census.

Abercrombie and rodney st ward Liverpool  for a
MARY HATTON Nee Morris born Holywell Flintshire about 1820
she will be a widow on this census she married in 1857 Church of St Nicholas  but her husband had died by 1861



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Barclay,baxter,Cook,Cowie,Dryburgh,Hughes,Morris,Murray,Simpson,Westwater from Fife Scotland.

Hatton,Roscoe,Smith,Ellison,Hardy,Harding,Holmes,Randles, Fishwick from Wirral Cheshire,



Barnett,Hempsall,Humphrey,Ward,Wrench  from Lincolnshire


Hartshorne,Wilson,Brass,Dodds,Hunter from Durham

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Re: 1861 liverpool census lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 May 05 19:43 BST (UK) »
Fifer

Tried all sorts looking for your Mary to no avail............did she have any other christian names?

Bryant
Researching names BRYANT (Camberwell), PASTERFIELD (Essex and all), RAY (Holborn/Islington areas back to Brentford), POWELL (Glouc & beyond?)
Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area).


Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1861 liverpool census lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 May 05 20:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Bryant
No she was just Mary on there marriage certificate dated 1857 would you try looking for her father Richard Morris in Liverpool he isnt listed as deceased on there so im hoping he is still alive she could be with him.

Dont know anything else about these to at all i was hoping the 1861 would give me clues.


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Barclay,baxter,Cook,Cowie,Dryburgh,Hughes,Morris,Murray,Simpson,Westwater from Fife Scotland.

Hatton,Roscoe,Smith,Ellison,Hardy,Harding,Holmes,Randles, Fishwick from Wirral Cheshire,



Barnett,Hempsall,Humphrey,Ward,Wrench  from Lincolnshire


Hartshorne,Wilson,Brass,Dodds,Hunter from Durham

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Re: 1861 liverpool census lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 May 05 21:34 BST (UK) »
Could she have remarried?  Here are all Marys b. 1815-1825 Holywell:

Name   Estimated Birth Year   Birthplace   Relationship   Civil Parish   County/Island
Mary Taylor   1815   Holywell, Flintshire, Wales   Wife   Hulme   Lancashire
Mary Evans   1816   Holywell, Flintshire, Wales   Wife   Salford   Lancashire
Mary Jones   1816   Holywell, Flintshire, Wales   Wife   Toxteth Park   Lancashire
Mary Matthews   1819   Holywell, Flintshire, Wales   Wife   Toxteth Park   Lancashire
Mary Jones   1820   Holywell, Flintshire, Wales   Servant   Ardwick   Lancashire
Mary Jones   1820   Holywell, Flintshire, Wales   Wife   Thornton   Lancashire
Mary Evans   1821   Holywell, Flintshire, Wales   Head   Coxhoe   Durham
Mary Bamforth   1822   Holywell, Flintshire, Wales   Wife   Preston   Lancashire
Mary Heaps   1823   Holywell, Flintshire, Wales   Wife   Chester St Oswald   Cheshire
Mary Jones   1824   Holywell, Flintshire, Wales   Sister   Hulme   Lancashire
Mary Edwards   1825   Holywell, Flintshire, Wales   Head   Hulme   Lancashire
Mary Kirkham   1825   Holywell, Flintshire, Wales   Wife   Manchester   Lancashire

Barb
Cheshire: WARBURTON
Devon: WESTLAKE, WILLIAMS
Kent: CLAUSE
Middlesex: WATERS
Somerset: WAY


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Re: 1861 liverpool census lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 04:41 BST (UK) »
hmmmm...  i think we may need a touch more info on this one  :-) I can't find a richard morris that would be old enough to be her father  - a few questionable as siblings....  Any other clues you can throw our way?

Tom
census information is crown copyright
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.htm

cumberland - ivison
derby - fearn
durham - moon, bowman, waters
kent - millgate, hatcher, cox, alaby, gibbs, goodbourne, hollams
lancashire - dears, bradborn, matthews, burke
london - mears
northumberland - curry, grey
yorkshire - bergan, ackney, irwin, sclaes, metcalf, crosby
caithness - stewart, waters, gunn, cormack, horne
refrewshire - houston, dow
hamburg germany - dears ( deircs)

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Re: 1861 liverpool census lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 08:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone
Thanks for trying.
All the info i have is that Mary Morris married 1857 to Fishwick Hatton (full Age) Area listed as address on certfiicate is Highgate
Father Listed as Richard Morris
I havent been able to find anything on her at all
Wittness at wedding were John Cooper and Catherine Ellis at St Nicholas Church Liverpool.
Her husband Died 1859 In Liverpool
He was from Cheshire Westkirby.

1851 has them in Abercrombie and Rodney ward


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Barclay,baxter,Cook,Cowie,Dryburgh,Hughes,Morris,Murray,Simpson,Westwater from Fife Scotland.

Hatton,Roscoe,Smith,Ellison,Hardy,Harding,Holmes,Randles, Fishwick from Wirral Cheshire,



Barnett,Hempsall,Humphrey,Ward,Wrench  from Lincolnshire


Hartshorne,Wilson,Brass,Dodds,Hunter from Durham

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Re: 1861 liverpool census lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 10:14 BST (UK) »
Angela

Do you know more about Fishwick Hatton? what qtr of 1857 did they marry?
Where have you found Fishwick.......can you display the census info of 1851 family....parents/siblings etc
Who are John Cooper and Catherine Ellis, are they the resident witnesses at the Church?...........normally it would be brothers/sisters or family members who would be the witnesses!........are they away from home?

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Researching names BRYANT (Camberwell), PASTERFIELD (Essex and all), RAY (Holborn/Islington areas back to Brentford), POWELL (Glouc & beyond?)
Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area).


Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1861 liverpool census lookup please
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 14:05 BST (UK) »
Angela,

Is Fishwick Hatton's father's name listed on the cert?

Barb
Cheshire: WARBURTON
Devon: WESTLAKE, WILLIAMS
Kent: CLAUSE
Middlesex: WATERS
Somerset: WAY

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Re: 1861 liverpool census lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 15:04 BST (UK) »
Hi All

Fishwick Hatton was born 1829 in Westkirby Cheshire died 1857 Liverpool to James Hatton and Sarah?
Married 26 Jan 1851 Liverpool.

Mary Morris ?

Marriage Cert Lists the following
St nicholas Church Parish of Liverpool
25 Jan 1851 
Fishwick Hatton    Full   Bachelor    Labourer   Dunkingfield H   Father Lised as James Hatton labourer(dec 18 Feb 1829 Westkirby)
But not listed as dec on Certificate

Mary Morris   Full   Spinster    Highfield H   Father Richard Morris   Labour   (not listed as dec on Certificate)
Presence of John Cooper/Catherine Ellis


Havent a clue to who John and Catherine are i know i have no ellis or cooper in the hatton line.



1851 Census (this was a lookup done on Lancashire Rootsweb board by 2 people )

Abercrombie and rodney st ward Liverpool  (address not listed)

Fishwick Hatton  age 22 or 29 (age couldnt be read) Labourer  Westkirby
Mary Hatton  ( age couldnt be read) Holywell Flintshire

no one else listed with them so dont know if any kids by the time of Fishwick Hattons death



Please dont waste anymore time trying to find them im hoping to go down to liverpool during the summer i will have a look then.

Angela
Barclay,baxter,Cook,Cowie,Dryburgh,Hughes,Morris,Murray,Simpson,Westwater from Fife Scotland.

Hatton,Roscoe,Smith,Ellison,Hardy,Harding,Holmes,Randles, Fishwick from Wirral Cheshire,



Barnett,Hempsall,Humphrey,Ward,Wrench  from Lincolnshire


Hartshorne,Wilson,Brass,Dodds,Hunter from Durham