Graham of Wetheral

[JaneWAust]

Sorry for repeat posts, for all those previously interested in this thread, the following confirms My great grandfather Charles' parentage as John http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/graham-charles-james-3648

[Kinsy]

Hi Jane - so exciting to read your post and discover a new distant cousin !!
I'll PM you later this evening.

P.S. am mystified by your "not Jane Wing" post

[Kinsy]

JaneWAust - hope you saw my message in your PM box ?

[Rachel B]

Hello, I have just come across this thread years after it was initially posted, but thought I would chime in anyway.  My g/g/g grandmother was John Graham's sister, Ann Graham.  She married John Mitchinson, and lived in Carlisle, and their daughter Jane was my g/g grandmother. Jane emigrated to Canada in the 1860s.  I believe Ann Graham was born at Wheelbarrow Hall in Wetheral, so not the farm you referred to in your post. Does that make sense?  Great to get all this great information about the family.

[Kinsy]

Sorry to disappoint, Rachel, by "my" Ann (Nancy) Graham didn't marry. She died Intestate in 1828, and her brother Rev John Graham was appointed Administrator of her estate.
I presume that "your" Ann was born sometime between 1780 and 1800, so I searched through my list of baptisms in Wetheral (1665-1864), but cannot find one for your Ann. I have, however, extracted the following baptisms for children with parents living at Wheelbarrow Hall at that time - which might help in your search for Ann's parents.

Child                   Baptised           Father, occupation           Mother
Jane                   14/07/1793   George Graham, cooper   Mary Lancaster
John                   21/09/1794   Henry Graham, labourer   Isabella Nicholson
John (illegit)        11/08/1799   John Milburne                   Mary Graham, s/woman
Mary                   17/09/1775   Richard Graham                   Ann
Thomas               06/06/1784   Thomas Graham, labourer   Jane
John                   13/01/1782   William Graham                   Mary*
Jane                   17/02/1782   William Graham   
Mary                   06/07/1783   William Graham, labourer   Mary*
Mary                   23/07/1785   William Graham, labourer   Mary*
John (illegit)          06/02/1785   --                                  Ann Graham
Sarah (illegit)       21/10/1792   --                                    Ann Graham
*possibly Mary Scarrow - she & Wm married 07/06/1778   

Good luck in your search.

[Rachel B]

Kinsy, Thanks for that info.  So interesting that she's not in those records.  According to Family Search, she appears in "England Births and Christenings" as being Christened at Wetheral, Jan 3, 1790, to parents Joseph Graham and Mary Hobson.  Do you know if Joseph Graham and Mary Hobson lived at Wheelbarrow Hall? Perhaps that's the part I have wrong.

[Kinsy]

Yes, your Ann is in the baptism list, Rachel !! sorry, I was just looking for parents from Wheelbarrow Hall.
Her father Joseph is a farmer of The Shield - I'll sift through my BMD lists to see if there's any other info for him or Mary.

[Kinsy]

You probably already have these baptisms, Rachel:
Thomas 1791/1/02
John 1796/6/26
Mary 1800/4/27
In all of them father Joseph was a farmer - of The Shield in 1791, and Scotby Shield in 1796 & 1800.
Joseph & Mary married 1789/6/16, witnesses were Peter Hobson & Thomas Graham.

I think these are Joseph & Mary's burials:
- Joseph of Scotby, 88 yrs (ie b.c1767, but I can't find a Wetheral baptism that matches)
- Mary of Scotby, 75 yrs (ie b.c1765)

All of the above were in the Holy Trinity church in Wetheral.

P.S. looking at previous posts, I can see why you thought Joseph & Mary were my ancestors - but the parents of "my" John and Ann were William & Mary (Robinson).

[Kinsy]

Oops - forgot to put the burial dates.
Joseph 1855/12/05
Mary 1840/04/01