Look up: 1892 marriage Helena Bell and Alexander Forbes Phillips

[Richlive]

Hi Christine
THANK YOU! I am very appreciative of your time and detective work here.
Thanks also to "Ladyhawk" for additions.

Putting all this with the information I already have will keep me out of mischief for at least a day or two....

[c-side]

I spotted the 1861 census record too - must find George next time I'm at the archives (2 weeks time).

I still can't believe that Helena isn't in St. Cuthbert's but I checked three times!  Still thinking about where she will be (possibly Earsdon?)

One additional item about Isabella, the witness.  She could be Helena's older sister but I also spotted another Isabella Bell, parents John and Jane (John a master mariner) baptised in 1872.  Possible cousin to Helena?

Christine

[Ladyhawk]

Just in case you don’t have this info. & just to keep you busy for another day of two have come across this information:-

The Reverent Forbes Phillips of the Vicarage Gorleston Suffolk clerk died 29/5/1917
Probabte Ipswich 9/7/1917 to Mary Forbes Cadbury (wife of Egbert Cadbury)
Effects £1614 14s. 2d. Reworn £1622 12s. 1d.

I wondered if daughter Mary married into ‘THE’ Cadbury family then saw this

marriage  info. (family beta)
Mary Forbes Phillips b1895 d1968 father Forbes Phillips
married 1917 Yarmouth (child George Patrick Lucas Cadbury b1920 d1941)
Sir Egbert Cadbury K.B.,D.S.C., D. F.C father George mother Elizabeth Mary Taylor
Notes: Fighter pilot, Chairman J.S. Fry & Sons, Chocolate Makers, Bristol, Director Cadbury Bros, Deputy Lieutenant of Glocestershire

Notes: Egbert’s father George Cadbury b1839 d1922
Partner in and First Chairman of Cadbury Bros. Founder of Bournville and Proprietor of Daily News

Notes: for George’s father John Cadbury b1801 d1899
Founder of Cadbury Brothers. He was a tea and chocolate merchant of Birmingham
John was married twice Pricilla Ann Dymond 1826 /  Canida Barrow 1832

Do you know if Forbes travelled to NZ for a time? – as there’s this entry

Reverend Forbes Phillips
Port of Departure Auckland New Zealand
Arrived London 11/3/1911
Ship: Mantua

lastly

Forbes’ other daughter Elizabeth Jane Ayton Phillips born 1900 married 1928 as it’s after 1920 & persons may still be living you can find the entry on FreeBMD Dec. qtr. 1928 district Bristol

[Richlive]

Oooh- yes, will keep me out of mischief!
I did know about the Cadbury link, but the other stuff is news to me- not surprised he travelled to NZ, but why remains a mystery.

One question- what does the "reworn" mean...do you know?

Many thanks again!
Richard.

[Ladyhawk]

One question- what does the "reworn" mean...do you know?

Sorry I have no idea  He's the only name on the page that has Effects then the word Reworn

Perhaps it's to do with the increase in money Effects £1614 14s. 2d. Reworn £1622 12s. 1d.

a picture of the man in question Reverend Forbes Phillips
http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/reverend-forbes-phillips-vicar-of-gorleston-1998

2 more pics of Rev. FP
http://www.gtyarmouth.co.uk/Bygones/Aussie_Arthur/html/beachmen.htm

Very interesting man well known writer
The Last Toast was performed at 48th Street Thearte April 17th 1914

http://www.smuggling.co.uk/gazetteer_e_14.html
a snippet
southern suburb of Yarmouth, Gorleston was home of Reverend Forbes Phillips, wrote about the free-trade most notable work The Romance of Smuggling he penned under the pseudonym of Atholl Forbes in the book he refers to the High Street vicarage where he lived....

How wonderful you have to much to discover 

[avm228]

It'll be "resworn" rather than "reworn" - a second oath sworn amending the value of the estate.

[Ladyhawk]

It'll be "resworn" rather than "reworn" - a second oath sworn amending the value of the estate.

that makes more sense - probably a typo  (not by me though) 

[Travellerdon]

I've just discovered this site and wondering about the interest in my great uncle Forbes Phillips?

[c-side]

Hi Traveller

Welcome to rootschat 

Richard hasn't been on the site since November but unless he's changed his email address he should receive notification of your post and, hopefully, be in touch.

Christine