Author Topic: Henry FROST Family in Mildenhall Sufolk  (Read 4892 times)

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Re: Henry FROST Family in Mildenhall Sufolk
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 August 11 09:52 BST (UK) »
btw - might to click on 'continue to pilot' if info about new site comes up.

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Re: Henry FROST Family in Mildenhall Sufolk
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 16 August 11 10:23 BST (UK) »
Got them-thanks Diddy
Also It's possible Henry Frost b 20/7/1794 is the father?
How would I ever confirm that?
Just to keep things complicated his father is Henry and mother Elizabeth!
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Re: Henry FROST Family in Mildenhall Sufolk
« Reply #11 on: Monday 24 June 19 16:03 BST (UK) »
I have an Eliza Frost who married Thomas Keep on the 19th June 1848 at Wootton, Bedfordshire,England. Eliza Frost was a milliner.The NSW BDM online index shows her parents were Henry Frost and Mary. However, there is Eliza Frost, daughter of Henry & Elizabeth Frost, who was christened 11th February, 1827 at Mildenhall.

Thomas and Eliza Keep arrived in Sydney on the 28th December, 1848 onboard the Walmer Castle. The shipping lists show that Thomas was 24 years old and Eliza was 21 (giving an est. DOB of 1827). Thomas came from Newport Pagnell, in Buckinghamshire and Eliza came from "Midan Hall" in Suffolk.

From Sydney, they moved to Casino in Northern NSW where Thomas became a trooper.
I've pasted these notes in from my files:

Son Joseph Kidnapped By Aborigines
When their son, Joseph, died in 1927, a terrifying tale emerged where he had been kidnapped by aborigines from Roseberry near Casino while his father was away transporting prisoners to Sydney. It is difficult to imagine his mother’s terror enduring this anguish with her husband away and seemingly extremely isolated with no one to help her.
Kyogle Examiner (NSW : 1912; 1914 - 1915; 1917 - 1954), Tuesday 31 May 1927, page 2
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Five Weeks in Blacks Gamp
ex-casino boy's experience
Stolen when a boy from his home at Kyogle by Roseberry blacks, Mr. Joseph Keep died at Kogarah (Sydney) on May 11. He had conducted a butchering business at Kogarah for the past 31 years. The late Mr. Joseph Keep (cousin of Mr. George Keep, Casino) was a son of the late Mr. Thomas Keep, first police constable to be stationed at Casino, and; afterwards appointed lock-up keeper, the lockup comprising an old slab hut. erected on the. site of Mr. G. K. Imeson's present home. Constable Thomas Keep, was also in charge at Kyogle at about this period, and it was while in residence there that the kidnapping of his young son by the blacks took place. Mrs. Keep was in the habit of engaging a black gin to do her washing, and this gin was blamed for carrying back to her camp the information which led to the kidnapping. Constable Keep was absent at the time, his mission being to escort five prisoners in chains to Sydney. The trip occupied five weeks in a flat-bottomed boat. The blacks took advantage of his absence to raid the home and carry off Master Keep to their camp above Roseberry, where, according to all accounts, he was treated as a little king during his brief but enforced confinement there. Returning from Sydney, Mr. Keep soon learned of his loss and set to work to recover his son from the clutches of the wily blacks. In this adventure he enlisted the co-operation of Constable Thaddeus Walsh, then in charge at Casino, and the pair set out upon an undertaking which, as ex-ents proved, was not to be accomplished without bloodshed. The approach to the blacks' domain was met by a fusillade of spears, and to effect their purpose the approach ing constables found it expedient to bring their firearms into operation. The death of two abos. resulted. Eventually young Keep was rescued and returned to his anxious mother, after having spent five weeks with his new masters. A brother of the late Mr. Joseph Keep (Thomas Keep) was born underneath a bullock waggon at Runny-mede Station when his parents were en route to Wyangarie. He is since deceased. An elder brother, Albert, died and his remains were amongst the very (first to be interred in the Casino cemetery. Undertakers being non.existent, his father made a coffin out of boxes, and in this the remains (were reverently placed for burial. At that time a minister of religion visited Casino from Grafton once a year.

Children:   
Name   Born   Year Married   Spouse   Died
Mary   1849         
Thomas H   1851         1920 St Peters
Joseph   1852         1927
Alfred J   1854         Unrecorded
Lucy   1856         
William   1858 Chippendale         1935 Kogarah
Richard   1860 Chippendale         1915 St Peters
Eveline   1861 Chippendale      1862
Julia E   1863 Chippendale         1863
Alice A   1864 Redfern         
Florence J   1866      1867
Agnes Eliza   1869      1951

Quite a lengthy reply here but a story worth sharing!
Best wishes,
Rowena
MY profuse apologies for the mistakes in my original entry. Was working too late at night!

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Re: Henry FROST Family in Mildenhall Sufolk
« Reply #12 on: Monday 24 June 19 23:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Rowena
What a remarkable story!
How sure are you that the parents of Elizabeth b. 11/2/1827 were Robert and Elizabeth.
I have an Elizabeth born 11/2/1827 to Henry and Elizabeth Frost with siblings James 1819 Sarah 1820. Could be a surprising coincidence about the birth date? My info comes from data provided earlier in this Rootschat chain.
Hopefully we are talking about the same Elizabeth because you have a fascinating story to enrich the family tree,
Regards Ian
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Re: Henry FROST Family in Mildenhall Sufolk
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 01:46 BST (UK) »
Thomas Keep married Eliza Frost, not an Elizabeth Frost.

Plus, the baptism 11/2/1827 Mildenhall is also for an Eliza Frost, dau. of Henry (not Robert) and Elizabeth.  A number of Frost couples baptising children at Mildenhall in the relevant time frame but a) no Elizabeth's baptised, and b) no couple named Robert and Elizabeth were baptising children.

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Re: Henry FROST Family in Mildenhall Sufolk
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 11:13 BST (UK) »
Marriage;
19 Jun 1848, St Mary, Wootton, Bedfordshire
Thomas KEEP, Labourer, Father SAMUEL Keep, Shopkeeper
Eliza FROST, Dressmaker, Father HENRY Frost, Gamekeeper
Witnesses Sarah Keep/Jame Guest
(FreeREG)

Maybe naming Elizas Father as Robert by Rowena was a mistake on her part

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Re: Henry FROST Family in Mildenhall Sufolk
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 11:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Rowena
Can you confirm that you don’t have your Eliza as a daughter of Robert and Elizabeth Frost but as the daughter of Henry and Elizabeth Frost?
Like Anette7 I can’t find a Robert and Elizabeth having children in Mildenhall at that time
I was a bit loose with my interchangeable use of Eliza and Elizabeth.
If you can confirm your parents were Henry and Elizabeth then we have a match.
Regards Ian
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Re: Henry FROST Family in Mildenhall Sufolk
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 11:57 BST (UK) »
As Robert/Sarah married in the London area and are together with their spouses in 1851 Census this may be their Father in 1851.

1851 Census
Holborn St Andrew, Middlesex
Henry Frost, 56, Head, Mar, Journeyman Poulterer, born Hermendam, Suffolk
Sarah Frost, 47, Wife, Mar, born Hackington
Martha Frost, 7, Daug, born St Luke, Middlesex

Marthas 1845 Bapt has Henry as a Poulterer

1861 Census Henry must have died and in the Islington St Mary Workhouse we have;
Sarah Frost   56 Widow Lacemaker born Kimbolton, Huntingdonshire
Martha Frost   17 born St Lukes
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Re: Henry FROST Family in Mildenhall Sufolk
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 25 June 19 14:10 BST (UK) »
Martha Frost's birth entry shows mmn as Bazely - Henry Frost, widower, married Sarah Bazely, spinster, 11/3/1833 Shoreditch (possible burial for 1st wife Elizabeth aged 40, bur.11/11/1831 Islington).

Cannot find the family in 1841.

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