Ardfert Excise officer

[MadThemad]

A relative of mine. Edmund Fitzmaurice b1809 in Ardfert became an Excise Officer in1838. He was then posted to Waterford. After this I cannot find any trace of him.
When my GGGgrandfather  Edward Glover married Edmunds daughter Eliza Ann Fitzmaurice in 1857 at Darleston near Wolverhampton, one of the witnesses was a Mary Fitzmaurice. This could have been a sister or mother.  Eliza's father was on the certificate as an Excise Officer. Whether he was there at the wedding I do not know, he would of been about 46 years old by then.

Edward and Eliza had a son Edward Fitzmaurice Glover born 1867.  E. F. Glover had 4 children, Clara b1890 Ireland, Eliza b1892 Ireland, Philip b1894 Clowne Derby and David b1896 Grimsby.

I cannot find out where the two girls were born in Ireland. Was it Ardfert( Edumds home). Or Waterford where Edmund was an Excise Officer.

Does anyone have any ideas where I can find info on them?





I would like to know if there are any records held in Ireland about Excise Officers

[shanew147]

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Edward and Eliza had a son Edward Fitzmaurice Glover born 1867.  E. F. Glover had 4 children, Clara b1890 Ireland, Eliza b1892 Ireland, Philip b1894 Clowne Derby and David b1896 Grimsby.

I cannot find out where the two girls were born in Ireland. Was it Ardfert( Edumds home). Or Waterford where Edmund was an Excise Officer.

Does anyone have any ideas where I can find info on them?

I would like to know if there are any records held in Ireland about Excise Officers

There are a few possible matches for the birth of Eliza on the Irish BMD Index around the right - all in Northern Ireland. See :

   Eliza Glover 1890-1894

no sign of any Clara Glover births around 1890, but there are two listed as Female - i.e. a Christian name had not been decided at the time of registration :

  Female Glover births 1888-1892

I think the best place to search for records of excise officers for this time would be the National Archives in Kew.

Have you found any of this Glover family (E.F. and wife and children) on any Irish or English census returns ?


Shane

[Annie65115]

Try google books - an ancestor of mine was an excise officer in England and I found details of his retirement age, reason and pension in a list in an old book.

sorry, can't get link atm!

[Redroger]

Yes, there are other threads around at present featuring excise officers. They were moved around frequently by HMG in order to minimise favouritism and corruption. Apparently there are records at the National Archives, but they are not indexed which slows down searching them.

[MadThemad]

I've found Edward Fitzmaurice Glover on the 1881 census at Sculcoates which is an area of Hull Yorkshire. I also know he died in 1933 and is buried in Cleethorpes.
I feel that Edward or at least Eliza went back to Ireland as the two girls were born there. My guess is that she went to her parents or other relatives wherever they were at the time.


I went to the N.A. Kew last week and looked at the Cust 47 minutes of Excise. There are 750 volumes. They go by years and there are several books to a year. I found Edmund and he went from the Tralee Collection to Waterford Collection in 1838. I have his appointment papers.

Thanks for every bodies input, hope I can help someone too.

Phil.

[Redroger]

One thing surprises me about the exciseman in my trees is that he is stationed at an inland village Heckington Lincs, not on coast some 15 miles away. Why would there be an exciseman there I wonder?

[shanew147]

I'm not certain exactly what kind of revenue these land-locked Excise men were involved in, but believe it was the Coastguard that looked after the coastal functions - e.g. excise collection, preventing smuggling etc



Shane

[Redroger]

I wonder if during the 18th and 19th century it was to collect the revenue resulting from the corn laws?

[shanew147]

The only article I've found so far that helps on what they did, mentions an excise man seizing a still, presumably Poitín, in Co. Donegal.

Maybe there's a previous topic about what they did in the occupations section of RootsChat ?


Shane