Looking for Husbands grandparents

[romangirl]

  Hy I wonder if anyone will be able to find out about my husbands grandparents, I purchased his fathers birth cert. last week after a visit to wales.  I have been searching for them for a while now, with no luck as the info I was given was they were from and lived in Llandybie. wrong info!!     after purchasing cert it says they lived at     4 brynna row peterston super mortem  in cowbridge bridgend.
grandfather was  John Williams
grandmother was Hannah Lewis
son             thomas Williams   13may 1902 -1969         This is my husbands father
daughter    leticia     williams   21 june 1905
son             shadrach williams  b  ?
son              cedrick    williams b  ?
daughter     doris       williams  b  ?
daughter     gwendoline williams   ?
daughter     mary ann williams  b ?
daughter     gladys  williams  b ?
daughter     hannah  williams   b ?
I think there was another two children but info is very limited from family, i would like to purchase the grandparents marriage cert but cant find any info on them.   I have spoken to lettie,s son and he  says he remembers his mother saying the williams family were known as the cwmglo williams in ceffinethen, i,d be very grateful for any help anyone can find  kind regards     Romangirl.

[osprey]

well, this looks like them in 1901

Ty Bron Heol Row, Brynna, Peterstone super Montem RG13/5048 folio 159 pg 7
John Williams head mar 29 coal miner hewer b. Carms, Crosshands
Hannah wife 28 b. Glam, Treherbert
David son 10 b. Crosshands
Shadrach son 5 b. Crosshands
Mary Ann dau 3 b. Crosshands
Hannah dau 10 months b. Glam, Brynna
David Lewis father-in-law 52 underground roadsman b. Carmarthenshire
David Lewis brother-in-law collier coal hewer b. Glam, Swansea
Ellengwen sister-in-law 13 b. Glam,  Pencoed

[romangirl]

  Hy Osprey yes this certainly does look like them, can you advise me as to how i can find out about their marriage as I would really like to purchase this.      Thank you for this info its very helpful.                                   kind regards    Romangirl

[osprey]

I've been trying to find any of the family in 1891 to give a clue to the marriage & have had any luck so far. Given the births of the children in Crosshands which was in the parish of Llanboidy, there are 2 possible marriages showoing on FreeBmd

John Williams june qtr 1891 Carmarthen vol 11a pg 1448 with Hannah Lewis on the same page
or
John Williams march qtr 1893 Carmarthen vol 11a pg 1148 with Hannah Mary Lewis on the same page

Carmarthen registration district covered Llanboidy

 
 

[osprey]

ah, I have Hannah in 1891 - possibly sent off to her grandparents to have her baby.

1891 Ty Canol, Llanddarog, Carms RG2/4514 folio 94 pg 1
Levi James head mar 68 general labourer b. Carms, St Clears
Hannah wife 72 b. St Clears
Hannah Mary Lewis grand dau single 19 servant girl b. Glam, Blaenrhondda
David Lewis ggrandson 1 month b. Llanddarog

So looks like the 1893 marriage & it's given you another generation. Lewis family are in Blaenrhondda, Treherbert in 1881 RG11/5300 folio 8 pg 10.

Possible birth reg for Hannah
Hannah Mary Lewis sept qtr 1873 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 387

[romangirl]

  Wow this certainly looks very hopeful, I was thinking there was a bit of a gap between david and shadrach.    I will phone carmarthen register office tomorrow and ask them to check this out for me. Thank you for your help on this i am very grateful for the research you put in.  I will get back to you and let you know if this is right one     very kind regards to you Osprey.          Romangirl

[romangirl]

  Hy Osprey   I phoned Carmarthen  register office to check the date you gave me, but unfortunately
they have suspended all searches because of backlog!  I have to phone back on 5th sep      or I  could take the chance and buy the cert.            In the meam time I will try and find out when the rest of children were born.   I know my father-in-law was living in 14  rawlings road Llandybie  when he married in 1924
and I think the rest were in and around carmarthenshire as well.     I think maybe John and Hannah moved to Cefneithen Carmarthen as a few family members have said so.   Apparently their house was named cwmglo.    my father-in-law was  always know as Twm-cwmglo  and his father  John cwmglo. We did a bit of visiting churchyards.        Also spoke to a lady that had keys to chapel in Cefneithen we had a look at graves  and she  remembers a relation of hers was married to a cwmglo Williams also from Cefneithen.   Unfortunately were too far away (Scotland ) to keep visiting. We will need to try and arrange another visit soon. I would like to find death certs for them also. my sister-in-law thinks one of them died 1929-1930. but doesnt know which one!

[osprey]

Have you looked for them in the 1911 census?  Shadrach shouldn't be too hard to find as long as you allow for variants & it would give you the length of the marriage.

[romangirl]

  Hy osprey just had a search in 1911 census with no luck.   maybe they had moved by then.  Families did move a lot then didnt they I suppose they had to go where work was.       regards Romangirl