Donovan's

[aghadowey]

Can't even find a record of their marriage 

Closest I can find is for a Patrick J. Butler/Josephine M. Donvan July/Sept.1913 Swansea volume 11a page 2238.

[cacasmum]

Thats them she was 24 at the time my grandfather 38.

 After the marrige my grandmother left Swansea for Castle Street Dowlais Merthyr Tydfil where she remained until her death in 1962.

[aghadowey]

It's very confusing when you give conflicting or incorrect information. Yesterday you said grandmother married Joseph Patrick Butler in September 1918 but it was actually Patrick J. Butler in 1913 

Have you searched for Josephine in 1911 census living in Wales?

[cacasmum]

Hello,

I am so sorry so many dates swirling around in my head at the moment, Josephine Monica Donovan married Patrick Joseph Butler on 6th September 1913 in Swansea  she was 24 he was 38.

 Her address at that time of marrage 164, St Helen's Road Swansea here she was employed as a housemaid.

I have  located the 1911 census for this property unfortunately my grandmother was not there at that  time..

Again sorry for the confusion.

Sharon

[aghadowey]

If she was 24 in 1913 then she was born c1889 not 1891 as in your original post.

There seem to be no births in Ireland for a Josephine Donovan 1880-1899 according to the civil registration index. I have also searched for a possible birth in Wales without finding a likely match.

I'm also unable to find any of the family in Cork in 1901 or 1911. Perhaps if you check the census records for Wales you'll find a trace of the family. Many people of Irish descent living in Wales considered themselve Irish even if in Wales for a generation or two.

[cacasmum]

My grandmothers brother Daniel did live in Wales for a short period of time and worked in the Dowlais Steel Works i have found evidence of this on the 1911 census.

He returned to Cork before emigrating to America, then again returning to Cork and   Grove House as an old man and died at the family home.

Agnes and Tom never left Grove House and neither married.


Thanks so much for you help it is very much appreciated.

Sharon

[aghadowey]

Does the 1911 census list Daniel's birthplace as Ireland or Cork? How old was he in 1911? if he can be found in birth registrations it might make is easier to find the rest of the family in Irish records.

What townland is Grove House in?

[shanew147]

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What townland is Grove House in?
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the village of Ahakista is at the junction of four townlands : Reenacappul, Rossncaheragh, Gorteanish and Rosskerrig.

I have found three of these on the 1911 census returns :
  Rosskerrig 
  Reenacappul
  Gorteanish



Shane

[cacasmum]

place of birth Cork,   Age 36 year of birth 1875.