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Searching for William Mathers son of Joseph Mathers
« on: Sunday 21 August 11 10:20 BST (UK) »
I have William Mathers on my tree, he was born in 1829 in Scawby Lincolnshire to Joseph Mathers.  He married Lydia Ann Bonwick and the address at marriage was 208 Tooley Street, Southwark.
Joseph is shown on marriage certificate as a schoolmaster and my hunch is that he might have been a schoolmaster at St. Olave grammar school as this was in Tooley Street at that time.
Can anybody give me any firm information about this or throw any further light on Joseph and William's family.
I would be most grateful for any information.

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Re: Searching for William Mathers son of Joseph Mathers
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 August 11 11:23 BST (UK) »
Giving his father the occupation of "schoolmaster" may have been a little fanciful on William's part - as (if I am following the correct family ) in 1841/51 he is an ag lab ????

The address William gave on marriage does not necessarily mean his father lived there too
Often they are just addressses given withing the parish they married in - he may have only stayed there for a few weeks
I 'll post census info - if you don't already have it???

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Re: Searching for William Mathers son of Joseph Mathers
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 August 11 11:58 BST (UK) »
As Suz said if you are following a William Mathers born 1829 Scawby Linc. with a father Joseph on the 1841 census in Scawby
Joseph 40 Ag Lab no
Thomas 15
William 12
Robert 8
Henry 4 all children born in the county

1851 Broughton Linc.
Joseph 51 ag lab. born Rillington? Yorkshire
William 22 Valet
Henry 13
lodgers with a family called Neal

1881 William is a Railway delivery clerk living in Hackney.

If this is the correct family they are on the web with most of the family shown marrying. Robert is an Ag.Lab Henry a grocer/joiner/boot dealer

Some thing is wrong some where?
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Re: Searching for William Mathers son of Joseph Mathers
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 August 11 12:51 BST (UK) »
marriage register reads really clearly
29 Mar 1855 St Olave
William Mathers 26 Bachelor of 208Tooley St Occ Butler father Joseph Mathers occ Schoolmaster
Lydia Ann Bonwick 21 spinster of 208 Tooley St father george Bonwick occ Baker
witneses
William James Gilson?
Sophia Frances Gorman?

all signed

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Searching for William Mathers son of Joseph Mathers
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 21 August 11 18:43 BST (UK) »
Lydia and William Mathers are on 1861 census, mistranscribed on Ancestry as Mather.

RG9; Piece: 292; Folio: 77; Page: 28

William's birthplace is given as Essex and Lydia's as Surrey, so I think the marriage doesn't belong to your chap.
Chowns in Buckinghamshire
Broad, Eplett & Pope in St Ervan/St Columb Major, Cornwall
Browning & Moore in Cambridge, St Andrew the Less
Emms, Mealing & Purvey in Cotswolds, Gloucestershire
Barnes, Dunt, Gray, Massingham in Norfolk
Higho in London
Matthews & Nash in Whichford, Warwickshire
Smoothy, Willsher in Coggeshall & Chelmsford, Essex

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Re: Searching for William Mathers son of Joseph Mathers
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 August 11 18:55 BST (UK) »
7/4/1867 St.Botolph without Aldgate

Olivia Clara born 2/7/1865
Herbert C 10/12/1866
parents William & Lydia Mathers address Minories occupation Stockbroker

1/12/1883 St.Matthais Stoke Newington

Olivia Clara Mathers married William Henry Douse father William Mather - Clerk.

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Re: Searching for William Mathers son of Joseph Mathers
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 August 11 18:59 BST (UK) »
1881 census 9 Debeavoir Rd N.

William Mathers 50 Railway Delivery Clerk born Scawby Linc.
Henry P 23
Arthur C 18
Olivia C 15
Herbert C 14

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Re: Searching for William Mathers son of Joseph Mathers
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 August 11 19:03 BST (UK) »
Arthur Cyril Mathers bapt. 29/12/1861 St.Thomas Stepney parents William & Lydia Ann Mathers address 21 Jamaica Road -  Clerk.

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Re: Searching for William Mathers son of Joseph Mathers
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 21 August 11 19:07 BST (UK) »
William Mathers 56 Railway Clerk Wid. born Scawby Lincs with son Herbert 24 living with Olivia Douse in 1891 census Sandringham Road N.

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