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Re: Arrival Australia 1865/1870
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 31 August 11 02:02 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

To learn more about either William or Margaret KENNEDY, including how long they had been in the colonies, may I suggest you consider obtaining a transcript of their death registrations.  These documents will show you cemetery/burial information to confirm if the Tilba sightings would be your family.  They would also include other vital family history clues, including the names of their then living children,  and that would also help you confirm/eliminate the known information from the guesswork.

NSW BDM online index shows these:

William Kennedy’s death registered in the Bega district in 1890, with recorded GIVEN names of parents indexed as James and Mary #2977
Margaret R Kennedy’s death registered in the Moruya district in 1892, with recorded GIVEN names of parents indexed as George and unknown mother.

I note that if that is the migration of Alexander's parents in March 1876,  then it would seem unlikely that the William Kennedy on the 1870 NSW ER would be Alexander's father, unless you can find his departure back to the UK and then his re-migration.   

I find that NSW BDM certificates are quite informative, and that transcript copies of those are cheaper, quicker and contain the same information as the "real deal" certificates.  If this were my family tree, I would be seeking a transcript of the death registration for William Kennedy in 1890, presuming the informant to be his widow, Margaret and thus for her to know the names of his parents, his age, his occupation, where he was born, his usual address, when they were married, where married, how many children of the marriage, the names and ages of those then still living, and other vital family history information.  The d.c. also details the funeral and burial information, so that would help confirm/eliminate the Tilba sighting, for NSW d.c.'s also list the cemetery and the denomination and the name of the funeral director and the clergy. 

Of course that d.c. could very well thus answer the main question in this particular thread .... for it would give you the length of time that particular William Kennedy had been living in the colonies. 


Cheers,  JM

Hi majm,

Yes, you're right I am guessing, regarding the ER. Thank you for pointing this out to me.

I am sure William KENNEDY died in Australia. His wife's death does not give the place, though. So, I hadn't better guess. You would think the family would know where Margaret died. 

Would perhaps help if I knew where William was buried and if there is a headstone, as sometimes it can give information.   JM suggests obtaining this info from the d.c.

•  Name: William KENNEDY
•  Given Name: William
•  Surname: Kennedy
•  Sex: M
•  Birth: 1810 in Dalricket Farm, New Cumnock, Scotland
•  Death: 25 Apr 1890 in Angle Vale, Tilba Tilba, NSW  JM suggests obtaining confirmation from  the d.c.  

•  Name: Margaret RIDDELL
•  Given Name: Margaret
•  Surname: Riddell
•  Sex: F
•  Birth: 24 Sep 1810 in New Cumnock, Ayrshire, Scotland
•  Death: 1892

So, still don't know when William arrived in Australia.   JM suggests obtaining this info from the d.c.

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Re: Arrival Australia 1865/1870
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 31 August 11 09:23 BST (UK) »

Hi Jackie,

Yes, I have been busy with the KENNEDY research, with grateful thanks to those on Rootschat.

The possible one you found for Queensland gives the correct ages. The Michael Kennedy 29 doesn't fit, though.

William's children on the Scottish 1851 census are:
John KENNEDY 17
Mary KENNEDY  15
Alexander KENNEDY  10  He married Elizabeth Mein Oct 1864 Scotland and Immgrated May 1865, Australia.
Helen KENNEDY  6
Margaret KENNEDY  4
Ebenezer KENNEDY  11 months

I have been searching for William and Margaret's burial place. Sometimes you can get information from headstones.

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Re: Arrival Australia 1865/1870
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 31 August 11 09:46 BST (UK) »
Hi JM,

Thank you agin for an informative post.

I agree I should consider obtaining a transcript of their death registrations. But, like many others we search in the hope we can find our ancestors, without too much expense.

So, yes I'll consider obtaining transcripts.

Have got the information from NSW BDM on-line index -William Kennedy’s death registered in the Bega district in 1890, with recorded GIVEN names of parents indexed as James and Mary #2977
Margaret R Kennedy’s death registered in the Moruya district in 1892, with recorded GIVEN names of parents indexed as George and unknown mother.

I was trying to find information on Moruya Cemetery, but to no avail. William & Margaret's son Alexander and there daughter Elizabeth Ann Coppin are buried there.

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Re: Arrival Australia 1865/1870
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 01 September 11 05:51 BST (UK) »
Re Moruya Cemetery,

Perhaps the Moruya and District Historical Society Inc. may have further details in their archives ... or at least mention of the KENNEDY families in their publication "Moruya Pioneer Directory (2 volumes) Moruya and District Pioneers 1828 to 1900"


http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mturner/mhs/publications.html

I notice the following snippets at that link

...." Over 400 Moruya and District Families
For each family the information may include details of births, deaths and marriages and of their spouse and children, the ship and date they arrived in Australia, and obituary notices.
...."
and
..."Index to Deaths Eurobodalla Shire 1857 - 1905 This index contains: One line per entry Surname, Given name, Death Date, Sex, Age, Burial Place. Listing of cemeteries and "lone burial sites"...."

Also I read on an unrelated thread on the Australian Board here at RChat that there's at least one transcription agent offering NSW BDM transcriptions for $16 each at the moment.

Cheers,  JM

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Re: Arrival Australia 1865/1870
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 01 September 11 08:37 BST (UK) »

JM,

Have contacted a transcript agent, from the Australian board.

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Re: Arrival Australia 1865/1870
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 01 September 11 08:43 BST (UK) »
Hello cupcake
 have found some info about Helen Kennedy and could explain why William and Margaret went to Brisbane

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1295363?searchTerm=Helen%20Kennedy&searchLimits=l-title=The+Brisbane+Courier...%7Ctitleid%3A16

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Lawson, McInnes

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Re: Arrival Australia 1865/1870
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 01 September 11 09:20 BST (UK) »
a marriage for her

Helen Kennedy married Alexander Stewart
9 Feb 1869
Queensland
Reg no  B002596
Page  7885

Mauger, Le Pelley, Tapp, Molloy, Stephenson, Fogden,
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Re: Arrival Australia 1865/1870
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 01 September 11 09:46 BST (UK) »
Jackie,

What can I say except Excellent!!  :D  Feel I am getting somewhere with William & Margaret.

Yes that would explain why they went to Brisbane.  I assume Roma is a place near Brisbane.

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Re: Arrival Australia 1865/1870
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 01 September 11 09:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks for Helen's marriage details.

Wonder if they died in Brisbane or perhaps moved South. Something else for me to search.

Regards,

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