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1861 census look up musselburgh
« on: Wednesday 04 May 05 23:05 BST (UK) »
 Hi, Looking for Thomas Moffat( tanner). Wife's name Mary. Last known address Eskside(1851). Thanks Adie.
Taylor Weston-S-Mare Somerset
Staples Bleadon/Kenn SMST
Chalmers Musselburgh/Edinburgh
Jury Stepney/Whitechapel /Gt Yarmouth, Norwich Norfolk
Dawson Falkirk
Kidner Somerset                   
Moffat musselburgh/Leytonstone/Wanstead
Fordham  Lewes/ Cambs
Stevens Sussex
Buchan. St Ninians/Edinburgh
Cramp.  Stepney/ Whitechapel 1790's

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Re: 1861 census look up musselburgh
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 July 05 05:08 BST (UK) »
1851 Inveresk:

Moffat, Mary f, WI, M, 47 Birthplace: Inveresk
Address: Eskside
Moffat, Thomas, m. HD,M, 43, Tanner & Currier, Master, employing 8 (Birthplace: Inveresk) Address:Eskside
Moffat, John, m, SO, U, 21, Currier journeyman
Birthplace: Inveresk Address: Eskside
Moffat, Alison, f, DA, U, 19 (Born Inveresk)
Moffat, James, m, SO, U, 17 Currier journeyman,
(Born Inveresk)
Moffat, Mary f, DA, U, 15 (born Inveresk)
Moffat, William W, m SO U 11, Scholar, (born Inveresk)

Hope this helps......Elaine

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Re: 1861 census look up musselburgh
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 August 05 15:44 BST (UK) »
Elaine, Thanks for the look up, however I have discovered that Thomas died in 1859. His age on the 1851 census was a bit out! He was 72.
Taylor Weston-S-Mare Somerset
Staples Bleadon/Kenn SMST
Chalmers Musselburgh/Edinburgh
Jury Stepney/Whitechapel /Gt Yarmouth, Norwich Norfolk
Dawson Falkirk
Kidner Somerset                   
Moffat musselburgh/Leytonstone/Wanstead
Fordham  Lewes/ Cambs
Stevens Sussex
Buchan. St Ninians/Edinburgh
Cramp.  Stepney/ Whitechapel 1790's

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Re: 1861 census look up musselburgh
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 April 07 06:08 BST (UK) »
the james moffat in that family is my great great grandad


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Re: 1861 census look up musselburgh
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 April 07 11:55 BST (UK) »
Hi adief,

I have an extracted record on IGI of Thomas Moffat marrying Mary Dawson 29 Mar 1823 Inveresk with Musselburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
On the 1841 census at Eskside, Musselburgh

Thomas Moffat b 30 abt 1811 ??? Midlothian Occ Merchant La?? (could be 30 - 34)
Mary Moffat 35 b 1806 Midlothian (could be 35 -39)
Thomas Moffat 16 b 1825 Midlothian
David Moffat 12 b 1829 Midlothian
John Moffat 11 b 1830 Midlothian
Alison Moffat 10 b 1831 Midlothian
James Moffat 7 b 1834 Midlothian
Mary Moffat 6 b 1835 Midlothian
Plus 2 servants.

Still have problems with Thomas's age, are you sure you got correct death certificate? The ages and names in 1841 and 1851 tie in very nicely.

Tom
Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Pat(t)erson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: 1861 census look up musselburgh
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 25 April 07 02:28 BST (UK) »
Just re-looked at the 1841 census and I see the confusion:

Parish of Inveresk, Eskside:

Moffat, Thomas, m, 50, tannery merchant, b. Midlothian
Moffat, Mary, f, 35, b.Mid
Moffat, Thomas, m, 16, b. Mid
Moffat, David, m, 12, b. Mid
Moffat, John, m, 11, b. Mid
Moffat, Alison, f, 10, b. Mid
Moffat, Mary, f, 6, b. Mid
Moffat, James, m, 7, b. Mid
Moffat, William, m, 1, b. Mid
Williams, Elizabeth, f, 20, servant, b. Mid
Mitchell, Mary, f, 18, servant. b. Mid

Then the 1851:
Parish of Inveresk, Eskside:

Moffat, Thomas, m, HD, 43, Tanner & Currier, Master, b. Inveresk
Moffat, Mary, f, WI, 47, b. Inveresk
Moffat, John, m, So, 21, Currier j'nyman, b. Inveresk
Moffat, Alison, f, DA, 19, b. Inveresk
Moffat, James, m, SO, 17, Currier j'nyman. b. Inveresk
Moffat, Mary, f, DA, 15, b. Inveresk
Moffat, William W. m, SO, 11, scholar, b. Inveresk
Campbell, Jane, f, SV, U, 23, servant, b. PER, Logierait

1861: Parish of Inveresk, High St. Musselburgh:

Moffat, Mary, f, HD, W, 56, Landed propr'x. b. STI. Larbert
Moffat, Alice, f, DA, U, 28, b. Musselburgh
Moffat, Mary, f, DA, U, 25, b. Musselburgh
Moffat, William, m, SO, U, 21, Tanner, b. Musselburgh
Fairburn, Agnes, f, SV, U, 20, servant, b. FIF, Pitenweem

So there must have been a mistake somewhere as to Thomas's real birth date,
if he was 50 in 1841 he should have been 60 in 1851 and
and also Mary wasn't born in Inveresk but in Stirling.

Elaine
 






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Re: 1861 census look up musselburgh
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 25 April 07 04:00 BST (UK) »
Sorry to confuse you, but I got my 1851 census info from the LFHS CD.
Looking at the same family on Freecen for 1851 I see Thomas is aged 63 yrs.
Therefore the mistake seems to be with the CD transcription.

MOFFAT   Thomas   Head   M   M   63   Tanner & Currier Master    Midlothian - Inveresk       
MOFFAT   Mary   Wife   M   F   47       Midlothian - Inveresk       
MOFFAT   John   Son   U   M   21   Currier Journeyman    Midlothian - Inveresk       
MOFFAT   Alison   Dau   U   F   18       Midlothian - Inveresk       
MOFFAT   James   Son   U   M   17   Currier Journeyman    Midlothian - Inveresk       
MOFFAT   Mary   Dau   U   F   15       Midlothian - Inveresk       
MOFFAT   William   Son   -   M   11   Scholar    Midlothian - Inveresk       
CAMPBELL   Jane   Servnt   U   F   23   General Servant    Perth - Logierait

Elaine

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Re: 1861 census look up musselburgh
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 25 April 07 16:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Elaine,

Yes, that looks likely, that he should have been 53 in 1841, 63 in 1851 and 73 in 1861. Do you think that Thomas may have been married before to a Mary from Stirling, age difference of 16 years between him and Inversk Mary?

Sorry to confuse things again

Tom
Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Pat(t)erson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: 1861 census look up musselburgh
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 25 April 07 19:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Tom,

I did think about that as the age difference was so much, but the kids are in the right age group for Mary to be their mother. I spent a couple of hours last night looking around to see what I could find which wasn't much but I did find a David Moffat also a currier who may have been Thomas's father or brother. Would you like the info?

Elaine