Look up Moss, Llanarmon Yn Lal

[purlin]

Hi hiraeth,

Looking for any information on the following family. hopefully an address in Llanarmon

Samuel Moss b. abt 1857 llanarmon yn lal occ. farmer.
Wife, Margaret Moss (nee) Jones, b. abt 1862
Daughter, Hannah Catherine Moss, b. abt 1896

regards purlin

[wrjones]

The 1901 Census shows Samuel and Margaret living at Pen Y Ffrith Llanarmon with Hannah Catherine and another daughter Maria given as born in Llanarmon in c 1895.
RG13/5226/51/9.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[purlin]

Thanks for that William,

Maria the extra daughter is a surprise. 

I suppose Pen y Ffrith is a small hamlet, not a farm?  I did google it,  appears to be a Bird Park!

regards purlin

[Morganllan]

Hello 

Maria was Samuel's mother (and a sister)

1861 Penyffrith, Bodidris

Edward Moss Head age 51 Wheelwright
Maria Moss Wife age 39
Francis Moss Son age 17 Wheelwright
Edward Moss Son age 12
Eleanor Moss Dau age 10
Ann Moss Dau age 8
Samuel Moss Son age 6
Maria Moss dau age 1

All born Llanarmon

RG9 Piece 4289 Folio 27 Page 5

Kind Regards
Morgan

[Morganllan]

By 1871 another child Mary had been born (around 1862).
RG10 Piece 5659 Folio 35 Page 13

By 1881 Edward had died, and Maria was listed as Head of the family, Farmer of 35 acres
RG11 Piece 5521 Folio 26 Page 4

There is a Penyffrith Fishery.....

[Morganllan]

Marriage of Edward Moss and Maria Jones in 1843 at Llanarmon yn ial
Ruthin volume 27 page 343

[purlin]

Thank you Morgan,

I have managed to find Pen Y Ffrith on an ordinance survey map, it is a farm house.

Now I have established I have the right Moss family, I am hoping to be able to link Samuel Moss or his fathers wife, or indeed Samuel's wife, Margaret Jones, to another Jones family in Brymbo.

The other Jones family is, Griffith Owen Jones he was born Brymbo,  I think 1893/94, he married a Catherine Gibbons in Feb. 1921 Wrexham.

Thank you for your help
purlin

[Morganllan]

Hello

Do you have the marriage certificate for Griffith Owen Jones 1921? If so, what is his father's name and occupation.

This could be him in 1901:
43 Hill St, Brymbo

William Jones Head age 35 Steel worker steam engine fitter born Cerrig
Elizabeth E Jones Wife age 33 born Bersham
Cadwaladr Jones Son age 10 born Brymbo
Griffith O Jones Son age 7 born Brymbo

Kind Regards
Morgan

[Morganllan]

If this is the right family, William Jones was born Cerrigydruidion, and Maria Moss (nee Jones) and Margaret Moss (nee Jones) was both born Llanarmon so I can't see an obvious connection.   

1881

Lodge, Brymbo

Cadwaladr Jones  Head age 36 Furnaceman iron born Llangwm
Jane Jones Wife age 32 born Llangwm
William Jones Son age 15 general labourer born Cerrigydruidion
David Owen Jones Son age 7 scholar born Brymbo
Cadwaladr Jones *Dau age 4 (* on original)  born Brymbo
John Jones Son age 12 scholar  born Brymbo

RG11 Piece 5517 Folio 23 Page 38