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Identifying parents
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 19:20 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Anyone able to help me find the names of the parents of John C Phillips b. 1921 (d 1926) in Penzance? Mother's maiden name was Noble but can't find either parent's Christian name.

Any help or pointers very much appreciated!

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Re: Identifying parents
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 September 11 19:43 BST (UK) »
Have you checked freebmd for a marriage between a male Phillips and a female Noble?

There are 2 on freebmd - neither in Cornwall so suspect you will need to buy a copy of his birth cert
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 September 11 19:50 BST (UK) »
If his mother was previously married - this is what can happen

Mary Noble marries Joe Bloggs and is then widowed

Mary Bloggs re-marries to Mr Phillips

However - baby Phillips birth cert will show mothers true maiden name of Noble
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Re: Identifying parents
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 September 11 19:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that - any clue how I can go about finding who Mary Bloggs is?! Should I just look for any male Nobles who died and take it from there?!


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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 September 11 20:25 BST (UK) »
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Should I just look for any male Nobles who died and take it from there

I doubt that would help you in any way as it pre-supposes that all events took place in Cornwall- much simpler and quicker to buy a copy of the birth cert

There are a huge number of Phillips marriages in Cornwall between 1911-1921 and without knowing whether John C was their firstborn - you have no idea of a start date when searching for a marriage or a death for a Noble of unknown christian name
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Re: Identifying parents
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 September 11 20:40 BST (UK) »


  Hi ..

 another Phillips birth in Penzance in 1923 lists mother maiden name as Smith Noble. Could they be the same family ?
 That leads to a marriage in Bristol in 1915 of a Nicholas Phillips to Leonora Smith-Noble. A further birth there in 1918.
 However the only way to confirm any details is to get the birth cert as Carol suggested.

  Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 September 11 20:53 BST (UK) »


  Also...poss is
  Leonora Smith Noble b 1892 Bristol
  Leonora Phillips b 1893 died Penzance 1969.

  Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Identifying parents
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 September 11 21:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks Tazzie - the person who put me on to this bit of the family said they *thought* the dad's name was Nicholas. Will investigate... Thanks both for your help!