Granite Quarry at Threlkeld

[mareanna]

I’m following a line down from Ann Antill (1812 – 1862) and William Noon (1807 – 1873) to one of their sons, Samuel Noon (b 1839) and his wife Emma Baum (b1841).  They are part of the Mountsorrel quarrymen (I’ve got Antills, Waterfields, Baums & Noons) who spread to Trevor in Wales and back. 

I can see many of Samuel and Emma’s family in the Keswick area, in particular Henry Noon (b 1861, Mountsorrel, Leicestershire) is listed as granite quarry foreman on the 1901 census, then granite quarry manager in 1911, and living at Blencathra House, Threlkeld

I’ve found a web site for Threlkeld Quarry, so I’m assuming that Henry (and other Noons) worked there, but were there any other granite quarries in the vicinity?

Mountsorrel and Trevor quarries were part of the same company, but were there the same commercial links with Threkeld, or was the move north just(!) part of finding work?

Some of the family also settled in County Durham as quarrymen/sett makers

mareanna

[maryd]

Was Blencathra House the fever/ TB hospital at that time?
maryd

[hanes teulu]

http://www.threlkeld.org.uk/ThrelkeldHome.htm

"Keswick & District 125 years ago" - old newspaper articles

regards

[emmsthheight]

Hi

Blencathra House is by the smaller ordinary quarrymens' cottages, but slightly bigger.  It's not where the fever hospital was.

I actually followed an ancestor for a friend who was the predecessor of your man and also lived in Blencathra House - I never decided whether it had always been in the same place. 

I think from what yu've said that the house must have gone with the job, and your ancestor must have taken over from my friend's.  as a matter of interest, do you know when your man took the job?  We're not exactly sure when our man left.  He died in Canada where many of the family were.

I took a lot of notes but I'm away for a while at the moment so I don't have them.  I'm not so hot on management and the commercial side though.  There were other mines but I'm not sure if they werte the same type or what the companies were.

Best wishes

Emms

[mareanna]

Hi Emms 

So far:

I’ve only got Census information about this branch of Noons.  Henry Noon and his family are on 1871 in Alnwick with his father, Samuel, a stone cutter.  A long way from their roots in north-west Leicestershire.  Next they are in Middleton on Tees and Henry is now old enough to be a sett maker.  1891 Henry is in Keswick (his father is in Penrith) and is a granite quarrier.  By 1901 Henry and his family are at Blencathra House and Henry is granite quarry foreman.  His son, Wilfred, is granite quarry clerk.  1911 sees them still at Blencathra House and Henry is granite quarry manager, with son Laurence following his father as sett maker.  Their peripatetic lifestyle and general society then would add up to them living in rented or tied accommodation.  Henry’s father, Samuel, is in Keswick for 1901 & 1911, a granite foreman for both censuses.  I’m pondering whether they could have both worked at the same quarry in Threkeld or did Samuel travel to a quarry nearer Penrith where he was in 1891?   

I haven’t managed to find Blencathra House from an address search in 1891 from FMYP, so perhaps it was built after then??  From the address search for Threkeld in 1891 there weren't that many granite quarriers.  More lead miners instead.

[Geoff-E]

I don't know if you've seen this http://www.threlkeld.org.uk/picQuarryand%20ValeofStJohn.htm
and http://www.threlkeldquarry.co.uk/

I can only see one quarry in the vicinity of Threlkeld http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=332312&Y=524860&A=Y&Z=115

[hanes teulu]

Historical Directories (on line) - there is only one reference to Blencathra House.

History, Topography & Directory of Cumberland 1901
Noon, Henry, Quarry Foreman, Blencathra House

Could be newly built or newly named?

regards

[hanes teulu]

Should add the 1901 Directory includes a description of the Quarries activities

regards

[emmsthheight]

Hi

fascinating reading thank you every one.

I can't remember the details everyone, as I may have said I'm away from home and don't have all my notes with me.

I do know though, that my friend who's descended from the earlier foreman came up, we went upo to the mine and village, and to Threlkelld and St Johns in the Vale Church.
We looked at various generations of the OS map, including before and after the new road route and also talked to the people in the museum.

We went along the houses with the various census entries and notes.

At the end of it, we  decided the only way we could make everything work was if the foreman's house - Blencathra House / Blencathra view had started life at the end of the row of quarrymen's cottages and then a new one had been built and / or some renaming had happened.

The newer house though would fit in with your idea that the house was built more recently.

I'll have a look when I get back but it won't be yet.

Best wishes

Emms