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Re: Origins of the surname Kinch
« Reply #45 on: Friday 09 September 11 03:14 BST (UK) »
It is indeed fun!  ;D

Apparently the 1841 census for Prince Edward Island, Canada indicates Irish ethnicity. I haven't had a chance to research that myself as yet. Tomorrow - though OH wants to interfere  ::) ;D and have me go to town tomorrow. ::) Life does interfere with research.  ;D ;D ;D

Apparently, Kinch family members came in 1818 after a land lottery - not ownership to the Kinch family - but to an absentee land owner. I've asked to have some verification of /readings on this.

Any uncertainty of TheShipsList transit info - my PEI Kinch contact says they went to Ontario & not to Prince Edward Island - not closely related.The description of RC compared to Protestants did make me laugh.

OH says it's 8PM, time to sit down with a glass of wine & get off my mini. ;D

Will look at your last link in the AM.
MACDONALD of Benbecula, Scotland, Earlswood/Wapella Sask
BAIN of Aberdeenshire, Trafford district, Red Jacket and Moosomin, Sask
CHEYNE of Aberdeenshire & Trafford district, Sask
FISHER of Yorkshire, Ontario & Saskatchewan
INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
KINCH of Ireland, PEI, Ab, Sask
CORCORAN of Ireland, PEI & Sask
GOTZ / GOETZ of Soufflenheim, Alsace & Ont
MITTELHAUSSER of Soufflenheim, Alsace
MULLER or MILLER of Drusenheim, Alsace & Ont

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Re: Origins of the surname Kinch
« Reply #46 on: Friday 09 September 11 14:25 BST (UK) »
On my way to bed, i turned up this little gem:
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/26234324/person/1828775954/story/3e7e4076-e1ef-4181-b5c1-01289a5be4f3?src=search
Let me know if you can read it!
Kinch and Von Kinch all mixed up together.....takes ages to read....

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TX Pastmagic.

That's the article I pulled the German origin paragraph the other day. I didn't know it was on anyone's Ancestry tree though. I found it through a Google search.

It made for interesting reading, particularly the discussion that there possibly were two distinct Kinch families in PEI - both of Irish descent & arriving at approximately the same time. It's a very, very small island & Wexford / Wicklow aren't big either so that stymied me.

MACDONALD of Benbecula, Scotland, Earlswood/Wapella Sask
BAIN of Aberdeenshire, Trafford district, Red Jacket and Moosomin, Sask
CHEYNE of Aberdeenshire & Trafford district, Sask
FISHER of Yorkshire, Ontario & Saskatchewan
INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
KINCH of Ireland, PEI, Ab, Sask
CORCORAN of Ireland, PEI & Sask
GOTZ / GOETZ of Soufflenheim, Alsace & Ont
MITTELHAUSSER of Soufflenheim, Alsace
MULLER or MILLER of Drusenheim, Alsace & Ont

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Re: Origins of the surname Kinch
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 10 September 11 14:40 BST (UK) »
OK I am feeling more human today and have read through thread. My  gut feeling at the moment is that the Manx link is a red herring and the odd Kinch Manx record is variant to surnames already on the island...but I may be completely wrong about that.  ???

I'm also wondering if there is more than one point of origin for the surname and that different surnames have created variants that have end up as Kinch. Which means untangling all the various branches from each other. I have no Irish connections whatsoever so I know very little about Irish records.

My Kinches can be traed back to one John Kinch who married in Swanbourne Bucks in 1778. His burial indicates he was born circa 1749. His marriage indicated that he was of Mixbury Oxfordshire. I have dug up plenty of records for Swanbourne but I have found every little online for Mixbury and I am not quite close enough to go there for a day hunting records. There does appear to be a batch number for Mixbury on the IGI but no Kinch/Kynch/Kench so it looks like the end of a trail.  :( I have found Kench and Kynch as variants in my research. My Kinch line left Bucks for London in the 1840s and then moved out to Barking and into Essex in the 20th century.

I have been trying to find where I read that it was a variant of King but no luck.
Rolph/Bird/Hilliard Writtle & Highwood Essex
Lister/Fitch/Kitteridge/Coote  Ashdon Essex
Coote Castle Camps Essex
Jones Kirby le Soken Essex
Kinch London/Swanbourne Bucks/Oxon
Burt Winfrith Newburgh, Dorset
Smith/Bant  Birmingham
Weatherill London/York
Hill/Habershon Sheffield
Roberts - London
Stringer - Leicester
Frost Castleton Derbys
Hall Wirksworth Derby
Allcock/Parkes Calton, Staffs
Meisenheimer Germany
Crossley/Adams Hidcote, Gloucs
R(o)ycroft Brown Malpas
Pratley BurfordOx

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Re: Origins of the surname Kinch
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 10 September 11 16:05 BST (UK) »
An Oxfordshire Kinch:
http://www.archive.org/stream/parochialcollpt200wooduoft#page/130/mode/2up/search/Kinch
"A parochial history of Enstone, in the county of Oxford" Free on google books, mentions this family.

Just because I found this looking for something else....not related to what you say above, but they are booth good book finds in a general way, so i put them up in case anyone was searching for that branch and passed this way.

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Re: Origins of the surname Kinch
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 10 September 11 16:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Pastmagic - the Kinches have definately been in Bucks and Oxon for a few generations before my trail runs cold but how to link up and of the loose ends or prove they are unconnected... I looked through to Mixbury but no clues for me. I think my only clues for John might be a will (unlikely as one of his children's baptisms described him as poor) or a clue on the banns entry in Mixbury (banns should have been read there as he was not OTP on his marriage). I have no idea of his occupation either.
Rolph/Bird/Hilliard Writtle & Highwood Essex
Lister/Fitch/Kitteridge/Coote  Ashdon Essex
Coote Castle Camps Essex
Jones Kirby le Soken Essex
Kinch London/Swanbourne Bucks/Oxon
Burt Winfrith Newburgh, Dorset
Smith/Bant  Birmingham
Weatherill London/York
Hill/Habershon Sheffield
Roberts - London
Stringer - Leicester
Frost Castleton Derbys
Hall Wirksworth Derby
Allcock/Parkes Calton, Staffs
Meisenheimer Germany
Crossley/Adams Hidcote, Gloucs
R(o)ycroft Brown Malpas
Pratley BurfordOx

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Re: Origins of the surname Kinch
« Reply #50 on: Saturday 10 September 11 16:52 BST (UK) »
That reminds me, I found this eaelier:

Oxfordshire Archdeacon’s Marriage Bond Index - 1634 - 1849

http://www.whipple.org/oxford/4_alpha_by_brides_names.pdf

Quite a few Kinch bonds in this. Again, might be helful for anyone searching for Kinch in that area.

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Re: Origins of the surname Kinch
« Reply #51 on: Saturday 10 September 11 17:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that - John had a son Daniel and there is another Daniel Kinch of Enstone listed on your link so maybe I do link to Enstone as Daniel Kinch isn't a particularly common name. But I have also turned up a John Kinch bap 1749 to a Daniel and Lydia Kinch in Tingewick Bucks which is very close to Mixbury Oxon but I am clutching at tentative straws here and it isn't much help towards Red Mystic's original question.
Rolph/Bird/Hilliard Writtle & Highwood Essex
Lister/Fitch/Kitteridge/Coote  Ashdon Essex
Coote Castle Camps Essex
Jones Kirby le Soken Essex
Kinch London/Swanbourne Bucks/Oxon
Burt Winfrith Newburgh, Dorset
Smith/Bant  Birmingham
Weatherill London/York
Hill/Habershon Sheffield
Roberts - London
Stringer - Leicester
Frost Castleton Derbys
Hall Wirksworth Derby
Allcock/Parkes Calton, Staffs
Meisenheimer Germany
Crossley/Adams Hidcote, Gloucs
R(o)ycroft Brown Malpas
Pratley BurfordOx

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Re: Origins of the surname Kinch
« Reply #52 on: Saturday 10 September 11 17:29 BST (UK) »
Sometimes these take a lot of time to work out!

Back to RM's comment about the small area in Ireland the Kinchs were in at the time of going to Canida. The place they are alleged to come from, Inch on Gorey, is actually on the Wicklow Wexford Border:

http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/I/Inch-Gorey-Wexford.php
gives a description of the place in the 1830

Another unverified internet source gives another raft of variant spellings - think RM may have put this link up already....


Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Kinch#ixzz1XZRYKrC0:

The Dublin distribution of the surname post 1765 - 1900  is quite interesting, showing equal numbers of Catholics and protestants:

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name=KINCH&location=&dd=&mm=&yy=&submit=Search

And interesting is that on the later marriage certs, where the grooms occupation is given, they are mostly sailors, or Kinch girls marrying sailore. - which could mean they were really from Wexford!


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Re: Origins of the surname Kinch
« Reply #53 on: Saturday 10 December 11 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Fascinating stuff everyone has found & commented on. TX very much for all the interest in the thread.

I was going through some family papers recently. I don't know when the one I've attached was written or who penned it, but thought some of you who were following this thread might be interested in the indication of a Kinch connection to Germany.

PS  I think I've figured out the people named; they date back to folk who were born as early as 1786.
MACDONALD of Benbecula, Scotland, Earlswood/Wapella Sask
BAIN of Aberdeenshire, Trafford district, Red Jacket and Moosomin, Sask
CHEYNE of Aberdeenshire & Trafford district, Sask
FISHER of Yorkshire, Ontario & Saskatchewan
INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
KINCH of Ireland, PEI, Ab, Sask
CORCORAN of Ireland, PEI & Sask
GOTZ / GOETZ of Soufflenheim, Alsace & Ont
MITTELHAUSSER of Soufflenheim, Alsace
MULLER or MILLER of Drusenheim, Alsace & Ont