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Re: Death - Orange NSW - William BURTON
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 15 September 11 04:08 BST (UK) »
And, sadly I cannot find Thomas and Sarah Harvey listed on the images at NSW SRO ... BUT the summary page (image 10) gives me good reason to think there's some typical clerical errors.  It shows the clerk counted up 39 families and yet his own list shows 40 (unless I cannot count)  .... Harvey is not on image 2 ....  :'(  but Boots is on image 1  ;)

The Imigration Agents must have been busy at Battle in Sussex

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« Reply #46 on: Thursday 15 September 11 05:51 BST (UK) »
My oh my... the BDM indexes are showing some of the family name as *GENNER*.

Then going back to an earlier post we had:
William Gennes (sic) married Susanna Selmes on 20 Oct 1800 in East Sussex, England.

James JENNER's immigration shows this:
Notes: Son of Wm Jenner (dead) and Susan Selmes - In the Colony

This looks like his mother's death:
GENNER SUSAN age 86yrs d. 1871 CAMPBELLTOWN #3226



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Re: Death - Orange NSW - William BURTON
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 15 September 11 06:33 BST (UK) »
My oh my... the BDM indexes are showing some of the family name as *GENNER*.
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This looks like his mother's death:
GENNER SUSAN age 86yrs d. 1871 CAMPBELLTOWN #3226

And ....  Family search's Historic Records (I presume akin to IGI Extracted) has Susannah Genner, 86 yrs  d o d   28 Jun 1871

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Re: Death - Orange NSW - William BURTON
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 15 September 11 06:48 BST (UK) »
And  there's a John Genner, married, aged 77, died in NSW 17 Jun 1896 (no name of his wife though) which would match up with NSW BDM index #5882 registered for the district of Campbelltown, both his parents given names on index show as "unknown"

NSW State Library catalogue shows they have :
NSW - Campbelltown District Pictorial Cemetery Register  Produced by the Campbelltown District Family History Society in 2002, this CDROM includes cemeteries of the Campbelltown area. Entries contain transcriptions and photographs.

 https://www.cdfhs.org.au/

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Re: Death - Orange NSW - William BURTON
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 15 September 11 07:05 BST (UK) »
A Google search shows several references that John GENNER & James JENNER were brothers, obviously one using the 'G' & the other 'J' in the spelling of the surnames.

Link to Campbelltown cemetery photo of Susannah GENNER's headstone:

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« Reply #50 on: Thursday 15 September 11 07:05 BST (UK) »
NSW ER 1870 NARELLAN (covering police districts of Campbelltown and Narellan)
John GENNER, freehold, near Eagle Vale
William GENNER, residence, near Eagle Vale

NSW ER 1878 NARELLAN
John Genner, freehold, near Eagle Vale
John Genner, junior, residence, near Eagle Vale

Grevilles 1875 Dir
John Genner, Eagle Vale

Alas, I still haven't found a NSW birth/baptism for Susan Jenner/Genner who married William Burton 1878.  Yes, of course there's many pre civil registrations that are not at the NSW BDM index, and yes, there's civil registrations that are not there too...

I wonder if Susan is noted (should be) on the civil registration for George Jenner, at Orange registered 1859, # 10505, son of James and Philidelphia....  I am suggesting this because I think he would be the youngest, so I expect all his living siblings older than him in that Orange family to be named.

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Re: Death - Orange NSW - William BURTON
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 15 September 11 07:09 BST (UK) »
Agh and JG was mentioned by Elstead in her find re the brand on the bullock

NOTICE
The undersigned has found a red working bullock, JG off rump, which he believes to be his, and which was lost several years since. Whoever can show a stronger claim to the said bullock, can have him by applyingto
James Jenner, Guyong

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Re: Death - Orange NSW - William BURTON
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 15 September 11 23:37 BST (UK) »
Wow. You've all made some discoveries since I've been away!  :D

Took a look at the 1841 census for Mountfield. Less than 100 names in the village. Wonder what caused the mass emigration to NSW?

Please can someone explain the bit in bold below. I don't understand:
Also on the Earl Grey
Saml JENNER, 20,
native place Battle, Sussex (3 miles from Mountfield), gardener
son of Philadelphia JENNER, now married to Thomas LINDON

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Re: Death - Orange NSW - William BURTON
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 15 September 11 23:55 BST (UK) »
Has anyone mentioned the death of James Jenner? I found this:
8505/1878    JENNER    JAMES    AGE 72 YEARS    DIED ORANGE    ORANGE
The date of birth is not quite consistent with the James Jenner who arrived in NSW on the Earl Grey in 1841 at the age of 30.
(Note: Philadelphia died in Orange 5 years in 1883.)

I wonder if Susan [Jenner] is noted (should be) on the civil registration for George Jenner, at Orange registered 1859, # 10505, son of James and Philidelphia....  I am suggesting this because I think he would be the youngest, so I expect all his living siblings older than him in that Orange family to be named.

Would Susan also be listed on James Jenner's death certificate, JM?