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Hello

this may or may not be of interest to you

1930 US Census Oakland, Alameda, California

John M Montgomery, head, m, w, age 39, age at first marriage 30, no post secondary education, can read and write, born Scotland, both parents born Scotland, immigrated 1922, Naturalization pending, steam engine machinist

Joan M Montgomery, wife, f, w, age 36, age at first marriage 34, no post secondary education, can read and write, born England, father born Denmark, mother England, immigrated 1924, alien, no occupation

John R Montgomery, son, m. w. age 1 10/12, born California, father Scotland, mother England

this may be his birth (lists a maiden name that might help you)

John Richard Montgomery
18 May 1928
Male 
Mother's Maiden Name:    Thedens 
Birth County:    San Francisco 

from Ellis Island

arrival Oct 29, 1922 from Glasgow, SS Cameronia
John McIntrye Montgomery age 31, married, Marine Engineer, wife Mrs. Mary Montgomery, 10 Murray Place, Lamlash, Arran, destination Tottenville, NY (friend John Forrester, 178 Manhattan Street, Tottnville, NY, coming to be permanent status in US

let me know if this looks likely and I will see what else can be found

Thelma

Hello

This may be your John Montgomery born 1928

Name:    John R. Montgomery
SSN:    075-26-8178 
Last Residence:    91344  Granada Hills, Los Angeles, California, United States of America
Born:    18 May 1928
Died:    15 Apr 1993
State (Year) SSN issued:    New York (Before 1951 )

with the date and place of death you could try to get an obit to see what is mentioned about his parents, etc.
Try RAOGK to find someone in California to assist you with that.

Also I know you can request the copy of the SSN papers but am not sure how to do that. Maybe someone else can explain how to proceed with that.


this may be something you have seen but there is an entry for your John Montgomery on another website  that has his first marriage to Mary Fullarton who died in 1923 (it also lists his siblings).


http://awt.ancestrylibrary.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mccabe1148&id=I5373&ti=5542

ID: I5567
Name: John McIntyre MONTGOMERY
Sex: M
Birth: 1891 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Occupation: Marine Engineer

Father: James Cook MONTGOMERY b: ABT. 1854 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Mother: Violet MCINTYRE b: 20 MAR 1871 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Marriage 1 Mary Christian FULLARTON b: 27 MAR 1899 in Blairmore, Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Married: 1921 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland

ID: I5332
Name: James Cook MONTGOMERY
Sex: M
Birth: ABT. 1854 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Death: 15 DEC 1929 in Lamlash, Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Event: Death Informant: J. MONTGOMERY - son - of 11 Lansdowne Crescent, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Occupation: Joiner (Master)

Father: Alexander MONTGOMERY b: ABT. 1808 in Kilmory Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Mother: Ann COOK b: ABT. 1811 in Kilmory Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Marriage 1 Violet MCINTYRE b: 20 MAR 1871 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Married: 1890 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Children
 Janet Elizabeth MONTGOMERY b: 1891 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
 John McIntyre MONTGOMERY b: 1891 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
 Ann Cook MONTGOMERY b: 1895 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
 Violet McIntyre MONTGOMERY b: 1898 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
 Edith May MONTGOMERY b: 1899 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland

Marriage 1 Catherine MCINTYRE b: 24 JAN 1859 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Married: 29 NOV 1882 in Holy Isle, Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Event: Witnesses: in John W. INGLIS and Jeanie McINTYRE
Event: Bride's Age: in 23 years
Event: Groom's Age: in 30 years
Event: Groom's Marital Status: in Bachelor
Event: Bride's Marital Status: in Spinster
Event: Groom's Occupation: in Joiner (Journeyman)
Event: Bride's Occupation: in Domestic Servant
Event: Clergy : in Rev. Malcolm McLean - Minister of Brodick
Event: Bride's Residence: in Holy Isle, Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Event: Groom's Residence: in Lamlash, Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
Children
 Janet Taylor MONTGOMERY b: ABT. 1883 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
 Annie Cook MONTGOMERY b: ABT. 1885
 John McIntyre MONTGOMERY b: 1891
 Alexander MONTGOMERY b: 1893 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland
 Catherine McIntyre MONTGOMERY b: 1896 in Kilbride Parish, Isle of Arran, Buteshire, Scotland

all these listings are by the same person so looks like some information may have been incorrect and been adjusted.

Hope some of this helps you

Thelma

Hi Thelma,
Thanks for the link. It proves to be a great source of missing information regarding the Montgomery family in Arran and will keep me busy for days to come.
Some details differ from what I received from the Arran Heritage Museum regards John McIntyre Montgomery (1891).
According to them; the parents were John Montgomery and Catherine McIntyre not James Cook Montgomery and Violet McIntyre.
John and James were brothers. Catherine and Violet were sister. Brothers married sister. Both couples each had a son they named John McIntyre Montgomery
John and Catherine's son was born in 1891.
Whilst James and Violet's son wasn't born until 1908 and in 1929 was recorded as living at 11 Lansdown Crescent, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
The marriage to Mary Christian Fullarton is correct though and would have been the Mary Montgomery (nee: Fullarton) that arrived at Ellis Island in 1922. They married in 1921 and she died in 1923. I'm guessing he married Joan Thedans when he was already living in the U.S.A. As in the 1930 US Oakland Census it states that she didn't immigrated until 1924.
I think having these two John McIntyre Montgomery's on the same generation line causes confusion So either the Arran Heritage Museum has incorrect records or the website compiler has. Only death records are going to clear up which is correct.
Oh by the way what is RAOGK and SSN papers (sorry new to genealogy research )
Once again thank you for all your help Thelma it is very, very much appreciated .
Stewart

Hi Thelma ,
Thanks for the quick reply.
I've done as you suggested and contacted the compiler of the site and hopefully will be able to compare notes if their interested.
I would have never heard guessed what RAOGK stood for, but hopfully it will prove fruitful. Thanks for the SSN number I'll try to use it to good effect.
Much appreciated,
Stewart.