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Offline Blanc

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Looking for Robert William COX
« on: Friday 06 May 05 09:12 BST (UK) »
I have made some new discoveries over the past five years, not many, and can up date this post as follows:

William Frederick Cox, Robert's father was born in Cannanore, India on March 16 1827. He later joined the Army of the East India Company via Addiscombe College. By 1875 he was retired on full pay.

On September 27 1857 at St Thomas's, Braddan, Isle of Man he married Anna Maria Daniel. This lady was Robert's mother. William Frederick married again, Eugenie Ugna Cannon in 1857. A year earlier their son John Frederick had been born.

Robert William Cox married Frances Matilda Stewart Piercy in 1877. They had seven children between the years 1879 and 1895 and, eventually, Frances made a home for them in Tatsfield, Surrey.

Robert William served in the Army in India for a while. Back in England with wife and children he re-enlisted in Portsmouth on 12/6/1884 into the Royal Irish Fuseliers under the alias of Charles Edward Custance. Five years later he signed an Attestation paper admitting his real name and parentage. I have no clue as to why he should want to go to all this trouble.

Robert served a total of twelve years, mostly back in India and on October 1 1895 transferred to the 1st Battalion Cameronians (Scottish Rifles). He left the Army December 30 1898 and sailed for England on the ss 'Nutra'.

From this date Robert William disappears off the radar completely. The belief is that he deserted his family very soon after they all arrived back in England
and may well have gone abroad again, possibly to the USA, but no one knows for sure. Similarly no one knows where or when Robert William died although when his daughter Toonie married in 1910 her father was recorded as deceased.

Hopefully the above might help to move things along a bit in the search for details of Robert William's end.

Regards
Blanc.





Adams, Bellew, Cox, Filce, Hauxwell, Piercy, Whitehead, White,

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Re: Looking for ROBERT WILLIAM COX
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 May 05 12:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Blanc,
             I believe Eugenie Ugna Cannon married William Frederick Cox.
             
                 Lambeth Mar quart 1878.  (FreeBMD) She was 19, he was 51.  ::)
                    Their son Frederick John was born Jun quart 1877.

             Their address in the 1881 census (LDS site)
               
                  Corbrallis Rd 1 Denmark Terrace, Cookham.
                    This is spelt wrongly and have spent hours trying various spellings.

                  It would appear on the 1901 census as Cordwalles Rd.
                           The proper spelling is Cordwallis.

                   The death in North Tower ? I think should read North Town.

                  I don't have much here only Cookham Mar qu 1888.
              BUT... Robert Cannon, (Eugenie's maiden name) died at the same time????
                         Was this her brother?

               William has his birthplace as Scotland?

   As you can see I have been round and round with this family.
        Perhaps we can get the lose ends together.

     We could do with the 1891 census for them.  :-  Lesanne.

  Post in the common room on How to make multiple postings, they will help you. L.

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner

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Re: Looking for ROBERT WILLIAM COX
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 May 05 09:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Lesanne

thanks for the info.

As far as I can see Ugna has Mongolian origins!

You do mean that Frederick John was illegitimate?

The death cert was pretty indistinct but on closer inspection its Town, not Tower.

I have a copy of William's Baptism cert. which gives his birth as Cannanore, in the Madras Presidency, India.

The Cannon connection is complete news to me so as yet I can't help with anything specific.

The "wooly hat" is probably a "Bearskin" worn by Guards Regiments. BTW who is the man in the redcoat picture?

Regards Blanc
Adams, Bellew, Cox, Filce, Hauxwell, Piercy, Whitehead, White,

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Re: Looking for ROBERT WILLIAM COX
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 May 05 10:52 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Is this one of your Cox's?

1871
St Andrews, Plymouth RG10/2121  Folio 103 Page 51
(a boarding school I think)

William R Cox  Age 12  Scholar  Birthplace India
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: Looking for ROBERT WILLIAM COX
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 May 05 15:28 BST (UK) »
 :) Hi Blanc and Cat,
                     I have some info on this site, but the topic moved and I can't find it.

                     Also posted a look up for 1891.
             It should show where Robert was and if Frederick married.

                 Lesanne.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner

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Re: Looking for ROBERT WILLIAM COX
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 May 05 16:08 BST (UK) »
:)  Hiya,
Just found a Fred in Newington London 1901. Staying with Annie Fanner ( his aunt).
      This is 1901....

  If you look at 1881 there is a George Fenner aged 5 b Middx,  Staying with William F Cox and Eugenie    (Riegina).  George is stated as being Nephew to the head of house.
              Therefore, is Annie Fenner/Fanner William's sister?

                Did Frederick stay with Annie in 1891 census?

                I have a note on Robert living in Sunnymeade?, I have scrawled Summerleaze.
                        This is just over the fields near North Town.

                       Funny enough, I used to ride the horses across there!

                       I shouldn't bother with children being illegitimate, more first and even the
                second child was born before their parents married, the further back you go.

                   The child often took the surname of both parents, this helps finding
                      the mothers maiden name.

                     Robert and Frances married in Kensinton 1877.
                    William and Eugenie    "              Lambeth 1878.

                                       Lesanne.   :)
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner

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Re: Looking for ROBERT WILLIAM COX
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 October 06 19:57 BST (UK) »
If we can find        George A Fenner/Fanner b1876 London in 1901.
                              Frederick J Cox in   b1877 Maidenhead in 1891.

I have George as Nephew to William Cox B/P Scotland in 1881
           Frederick as son to William.

I have Frederick as Nephew to Annie Fanner b1846 B/P Carlisle. in 1901.

Also Eilza b1820 Watchet, Somerset as mother to Eugenie H Cox 42 W Maidenhead. 1901.

 :-\  Lesanne.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner

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Re: Looking for ROBERT WILLIAM COX
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 October 06 22:01 BST (UK) »
 Have found them both in 1891.

Under various names as you can imagine...
 The name  disguise was Fermer. George A   and Frederick John  under Fred I Cose.
   Obvious!! once I'd found them.  :-\

at St Geo Hanover Sq, Mayfair. 5, Adams Green?

Fred is a nephew again  ??? This time the head is Arthur Fenner + Caroline bp Maidenhead.

Lesanne.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner

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Re: Looking for Robert William COX
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 April 12 13:46 BST (UK) »
Found this... don't know if u still looking at this family..
scroll down to 3rd story

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=MS19030214.2.26&l=mi&e=-------10--1----0
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner