Ida Margaret Harnes

[Tracey Joy Kelly]

hello i am looking for Ida Margaret Harnes  more specifically i am looking for her birth, or baptism or death. here is some information about her.

as i cant find her birth date
could she have a different last name at her birth?
could she have a different mother
how can i trace someone adopted ? she may have been born around 1902?? this is just a guess.
could she have remarried after her partner Naylor Hughes died? in 1936 
 Ida Margaret Harnes
she married her first husband Albert Bissaker in 1919. She had one child Joan,
the rest is heresay
She met Naylor Hughes and they had Gladys (harnes) James (harnes)frederick (Bissaker  found a birth but not a death for him but theres no mention of him in the family)  Margaret (Bissaker) William (bissaker) Mary (bissaker) Christina (bissaker) Amy (bissaker)
then Naylor hughes dies in 1936,
i have been then told that Ida keeps joan, gladys maybe william and then puts the girls mary, christina, margaret and amy in a girls home and James is sent to Australia (my grandfather)

theres no record of Ida at all. except for her first marriage name and shes on the kids birth certificate.

Apparently Ida's mother is Elizabeth Maybuery and her fathers name was Thomas harnes. Elizabeth and Tom were married in 1900 ( i was told that by relatives)
now because theres no birth certificate or baptism they are saying that Ida was now adopted.
Is there any way that i can find her.
Relatives have given me the names of Pewsey and Birmingham

[Tracey Joy Kelly]

i would really like some information that will connect her to Elizabeth Maybuery  or to Thomas Harnes please
so a birth entry  telling me her last name or a baptism record would be awesome
thank u so much
Tracey Kelly

[suzard]

1901
Wiggin St Birmingham Warwicks
George maybury Head M 56 Blacksmith's striker Kidderminster
Emma wife 56 Birmingham
William son 16 Machinist Tube Trade Birmingham
Leah daughter 12 Birmingham

in same dwelling but living separately
Thomas Harness Head M 26 Tube worker (cutter off ) Wrexham
Elizabeth harness wife M 22 bedstead Painter Bradford Yorks
RG13 2826 165 40

we are not allowed to do look ups of 1911 census - but you can search index free -and there is Ida Harnes age 9 bwith Thomas and Elizabeth harnes


edited -Elizabeth's age 22 on image  but transcribed as 27!!!
Suz

[Tracey Joy Kelly]

Thank you so much suz

 i know this sounds stupid but do u think then that Ida is the daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth harnes? could there be any doubts?
is there anywhere that gives her birth ?

[suzard]

I have been looking for her birth reg -but not found yet - I think may need to check spellings!!!

Back with more info in a mo

Suz

[suzard]

I think Ida is the daughter of Thomas Harnes and Elizabeth maybury


so many variations on the name

lookat this - It looks like Elizabeth in 1891 - but surname has been entered as Newbury (very clearly)

1891
2 Court 3 House William St Birmingham Warwicks
George Newbury Head M 46 Smith striker Kinver Worcs
Emma wife 44 Kinver Worcs
George son 19 Porter Birmingham Warwicks
ELIZABETH daughter 13 scholar Yorkshire

William son 6 Staffs
Leah daughter 2 Birmingham
John Fisher Lodger 20 Smith Striker Birmingham
RG12 23 79 3

Suz

[Tracey Joy Kelly]

thanks Suz
now all i need to do is find the birth or baptism or her death to prove to my other relatives  that she is related

[Tracey Joy Kelly]

ps thank u for ur help Suz ur amazing and i appreciate the help u have given me thank you

[suzard]

I will send you a PM

Suz