Marriage Mystery of Simmons Williams

[fizz83]

Hi Everyone!
 For months now I have been trying to find a marriage record for 2 of my Ancestors, but have had absolutely no luck.
The Marriage was between Simmons Williams (b 1834, Liverpool) and Jessica Thompson (b.1838, Scotland)
There first child was born in 1871 (Liverpool), but I have had no luck at all finding a record, nor a Birth record for Jessica.
Can anyone help or offer other suggestions? I'm in Australia, so I can't visit record offices etc.
Thanks heaps!
Rebecca

[pinefamily]

Were they still alive in 1911? If so, you could possibly discover how long they had been married in the 1911 census.

FreeBMD has a Simmims Williams, together with a Janet Nanson Thompson in the Sep 1/4 1868, West Derby, 8b, 823. Not a definite match, but highly suggestive at least.

[carol8353]

If Jessica Thompson was born in Scotland have you tried the Scotland's people website for their marriage. Although pinefamily may have already nailed it with the marriage he's just found.

As the baby is only 2 days old on census day in 1871 it is likely that this is her birth.

March 1871

WILLIAMS  Jessie     in W. Derby  8b 409

I see that Jessie's 32 year old widowed brother Robert is with them too.

Carol

[carol8353]

Pinefamily I do think you have cracked it 

In 1891 the family are still in Liverpool and have a 16 year old son called George Nanson Williams,bit of a clue there to mum's ancestry perhaps.

Here's his birth....

Births Mar 1875   

Williams  George Nanson    Liverpool  8b 47


Carol

[pinefamily]

Thanks Carol. I only wish some of my own brick walls would come tumbling down.

Darren

[carol8353]

 

[MaryA]

I'm in Australia, so I can't visit record offices etc.

The Lancashire Online Parish Clerk site has a baptism on 2 June 1872 at St Mary, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England for Arthur Simmons Williams - Child of Simmons Williams & Jessie

If you obtain the marriage certificate for your Simmons and confirm his father's name.
There is also a marriage on 1st March 1830, St Nicholas, Liverpool which might be your Simmons parents.
Simmons Williams of this parish, Mariner to Elizabeth Bradburn of this parish Spinster.
By Banns, Simmons signed his name, Elizabeth made her X
Witnesses Robert Jones signed his name and Ann Cooey? made her X

There are baptisms for children of this couple
William Williams born 12 May 1842 baptised 26 June 1842 Liverpool St Peter
William Henry Williams born 30 October 1843 baptised 10 December 1843 Liverpool St Peter and
John Williams born 7 March 1850 baptised 7 April 1850 Liverpool St Peter

[pinefamily]

You have to love unusual christian names; it makes our task so much easier. 

[MaryA]

Marriages of other possible children of the older Simmons
Holy Trinity, Walton Breck on 20 September 1867
John Cain 22 Bachelor Engineer 140 Walton Road
Father Charles Cain Builder
to Elizabeth Williams 22 Spinster, 20 Claremont Grove, Kirkdale
Father Simmons Williams Bookkeeper
By Banns, Witnesses Simmons Williams and Elizabeth Cain

St James, Toxteth Park on 24 December, 1865
Daniel Williams Full Age Bachelor Engine Fitter, Kirkdale
Father Simmons Williams Clerk
to Mary Ann Randall Full Age Spinster Everton
Father James Randall Joiner
By Banns, Witnesses Alexander Stevens and Sarah Randall

You have to love unusual christian names; it makes our task so much easier. 

Oh so much!