Thomas and Alice Diggle early 19C

[emmsthheight]

Hi All

I've had a few posts on my Diggles and mainly thnks to Rootschatters I'm actually getting somewhere!  Last one's so old I decided to start a new post.

I asked about Thomas and Alice a while ago.  Since then I have some more entries from the web, with various people -= especially Barbara'a help.

The latest is, since posting last time, very exciting, I actually have Alice'a death certificate from a family member! 

She died 1847, and was a widow - ie Thomas died before that! 

Also the informant was named Blinkhorn!  Looks like a brother possibly - so maiden name, Blinkhorn makes fantastic sense! (For those who loooked at that post!)

My question now is, though, armed with this information and the new entries online I obtained the following:

From familysearch online (LDS)

Name: Thomas Diggle

gender: Male

burial date: 27 Dec 1844

burial place: Eccles, Lancashire, England

age: 45

Birth date: 1799

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From FreeBMD (We had multiple Thomas’s but with the age check above it has to be this one.)

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

Deaths Dec 1844

DIGGLE Thomas Salford 20 673
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Only thing is, the burial place is just given as Eccles.  Would anyone have any suggestions as to where this might be?  Is there a cemetey this early in Eccles?   Is it St Mary's Eccles? 

Thank you fpor reading.

Best wishes

Emms

[Gibel]

I do wish the LDS would put the full name of the church or cemetery in their transcriptions. It is so annoying when they just put a place.

I found the film number then went to the library catalogue and got the following

Notes Microreproduction of original manuscripts housed at the Lancashire Record Office, Preston.
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Bishop's transcripts from the parish of Eccles and the chapelries of St. Thomas' (Pendleton), St. Peter's (Swinton), Ellenbrook, St. Paul's (Walkden Moor), St. John's (Pendlebury), St. Catherine's (Barton-upon-Irwell) and St. Mark's (Worsley).
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Lancashire Record Office: DRM/2/82-108


Subjects  England, Lancashire, Eccles - Church records
England, Lancashire, Barton-upon-Irwell - Church records
England, Lancashire, Ellenbrook - Church records
England, Lancashire, Pendlebury - Church records
England, Lancashire, Pendleton (near Salford) - Church records
England, Lancashire, Swinton - Church records
England, Lancashire, Walkden-Moor - Church records
England, Lancashire, Worsley - Church records 

So I suppose it could be any of the above lot!

Gibel

PS Maybe someone could look iy up in Eccles St Mary's in the hope that's right.

[mshrmh]

I'd say the burial was at the church. I've looked at Salford Council's website & their oldest cemetery is Weaste opened 1857 so the church looks as if it must be it.
Just seen Gibel's post - I'm struggling with connections at the moment so can't check - perhaps LancsOPC has some of these churches transcribed or there could be images on the FamilySearch site?
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0f95/

[Gibel]

Pendleton St Thomas are on ww.lan-opc.org.uk and no Diggles so that's one less.

Gibel

[Barbara.H]

I was looking the same way too; I was hoping to match up the IGI batch number for Thomas burial - B03614-0 - with something on the LOPC. I can't find that batch no. on the Hugh Wallis listings at all.

Unfortunately Lancs OPC seem to have transcribed their St mary Eccles burials direct from the registers, so no batch numbers recorded there - and they stop at 1842! How frustrating 

Plenty of Diggles at St Mary's up to 1842 though, so its got to be a possibility.

  Barbara

[Barbara.H]

Family Search appears to have crashed! Are we all looking for Diggles at the same time?   

[Gibel]

Lan opc doesn't use LDS batch numbers it uses film numbers if it uses LDS fims

I've found this burial in St Mary's Eccles which looks as if it might have been Thomas' son didn't he have a son later called Nathan?

Burial: 27 Jan 1822 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Nathan Diggle - Son of Thomas Diggle
    Age: 2 months
    Abode: Pendleton

BUT
Looks as if they used St Thomas Pendleton for baptisms
Baptisms: 27 Aug 1820 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Mary Diggle - Daughter of Thomas Diggle & Alice
    Abode: Pendleton

and then buried her at St Mary's
Burial: 7 Dec 1823 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Mary Diggle - Daughter of Thomas Diggle
    Age: 3yrs 6 mths
    Abode: Pendleton

I reckon Thomas and Alice are at St Mary's where they were married.


Gibel

    Occupation: Dyer

[emmsthheight]

Hi all

Thank you for all that beffort.  I'm sorry, I didn't know it would be so complicated.  I did look opn OPC first wish no look.

When I saw no church name given, it seemed so strange I thought there must be something obvious I was missing.  I never imagined they just weren't putting the burial place anyway.

Thanks to you it looks as if it is St Mary Eccles.  I was guessing at there but with no clearbreasoning.

Any way, I've ended up with some new information, thanlk you.

This couple always seemed to be low on children compared to other generations, but it looks as if there are two babies we didn't know about - \mary is a family name.  Also, yes they did have a spon Nathan mentioned elsewhere, but not this Nathan.  The other one survived - my gg grandfather.  So they evidently had two babies named Nathan!

Thank you again.

Best wishes

Emms 

[mosiefish]

Hi,

Over the years I have discovered that the LDS do not state a name for the actual "Parish" Church.  Every other church in the Parish they do, but when it is the Parish Church, they do not.  Take a look at the Hugh Wallis site index and you will see what I mean.

Mo